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overcalling a bad 6 card major with 2 outside aces

#21 User is offline   JLOGIC 

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Posted 2011-June-14, 07:23

I would rate a 2S overcall as horrible
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Posted 2011-June-14, 08:00

Thanks all. It was a clear 1 spade bid to me as most of you suggest.
I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??
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Posted 2011-June-14, 08:07

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-June-14, 07:23, said:

I would rate a 2S overcall as horrible


That good!!! at these colors? :) IMO You may need a rethink on preemptive bidding strategy, at least at IMPS.

EDIT: BTW second sentence was meant for the OP. JLOL has some semblance of knowledge of preemptive bidding strategy :)
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Posted 2011-June-14, 09:35

View Postmovingon, on 2011-June-14, 08:00, said:

I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??

A good thought about needing Ogust or not according to vulnerability. Perhaps in a future thread it will be explored as a consideration (for weak-two opening bids).
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Posted 2011-June-14, 14:12

View Postpooltuna, on 2011-June-14, 08:07, said:

EDIT: BTW second sentence was meant for the OP. JLOL has some semblance of knowledge of preemptive bidding strategy :)


yes, but this was JLOGIC. big difference :P
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Posted 2011-June-14, 15:32

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-June-14, 14:12, said:

yes, but this was JLOGIC. big difference :P


Yes in terms of bridge skill JLOL>PhantomSac>Jlall version 2>Guest_Jlall aka Jlall version 1>JLOGIC imo
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Posted 2011-June-15, 01:09

View Postmovingon, on 2011-June-13, 09:54, said:

opponent opens 1 club. (You are red, opps are white)

How would you rate a 2 spade overcall here?



Question 2: If one were playing Ogust over a weak jump overcall, how would you rate the bid?

Thanks for your responses.








A 2 overcall is no good:
- the spades are not good enough.
- and 2 outside aces , make this simply impossible.

1 is the best bid: the lack of honnor points is compensated by the extra-lenght.

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Posted 2011-June-26, 19:43

1 spade every time--but i do not decry a pass initialy,i am prepared to back in later when i have heard opps bid and my pards bid,
and openers rebid------never jump with a bad suit
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