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Brutal decision or easy one ?

Poll: Brutal decision or easy one ? (43 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you bid ?

  1. Pass (17 votes [39.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.53%

  2. 1NT (24 votes [55.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 55.81%

  3. DBL (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2 Spades (natural) (2 votes [4.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.65%

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#1 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2011-July-15, 10:14



Agreements:

-1NT overcall is natural (not sandwich)
-2♠ bid is natural

Scoring : IMP pairs
Partner : Expert

What would you choose to do and why ?


Thanks all for the replies ! :)
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Posted 2011-July-15, 10:55

View PostMrAce, on 2011-July-15, 10:14, said:



Agreements:

-1NT overcall is natural (not sandwich)
-2♠ bid is natural

Scoring : IMP pairs
Partner : Expert

What would you choose to do and why ?


Thanks all for the replies ! :)



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#3 User is offline   mike gill 

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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:06

1n seems less flawed than 2♠ with a balanced hand or pass when I could have a really nasty decision the next round.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:28

pass, both ops are unlimited, partner could be totally broke, spades may be hard to use on offense. 1NT risks a big minus score while standing to gain only a small plus score. It also helps the ops a lot during the play.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:30

I'm going to hate my choices later if I pass. I don't like 2♠ with a balanced hand, and although AT♥ is kind of wimpy, I think 1N is best here.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:33

1NT.

If partner has a bust then they will double 1NT and he can probably escape to a fair spot. Overcalling two spades seems a lot riskier.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:37

Between 1NT and Pass I'd prefer 1NT. 2♠ should be 6th so I don't like that.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2011-July-15, 11:48

pass and dbl later for a spade lead :)
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:38

View Postwhereagles, on 2011-July-15, 11:48, said:

pass and dbl later for a spade lead :)


Are you suggesting this action versus 3NT or other strains?.

What if they stop in 1NT?, or 2♥, possibly even 2 minor?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 12:52

I watched the hand so I have a built in bias. I thought 'brutal' at the time!

I'd like to think I'm wiser now and would bid 1N, but we'll see.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 13:31

wtp 1nt
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Posted 2011-July-15, 13:42

I'd bid 1NT without agony -- the prospect of developing tricks is reasonable and partner likely has some ♥s if we are left here, and passing isn't my style. I don't mean that as patronizing, just that if I passed I'd be at sea later. Also, if partner has a long minor we want to have bid.

Bidding 2♠ with only five isn't tempting at all.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 14:07

View Postjmcw, on 2011-July-15, 12:38, said:

Are you suggesting this action versus 3NT or other strains?.

What if they stop in 1NT?, or 2♥, possibly even 2 minor?


If they stop in
- 1NT: dbl, yes.
- 2x: either pass or 2♠ (natural), depending on how confident opps look.
- 3NT: don't think they will bid so high, but dbl still.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 15:10

I would bid 1nt.
X is out of the question.2♠ kind of needs the 6th ♠.
Pass can be good depending if pd is broke or not but I smell the 1♠ bid might have ♥ and psyched the ♠.
If that is 2♠ is far superior but I cant do a generic bid on a hunch :ph34r:
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Posted 2011-July-15, 15:12

To me this is a very clear 1NT bid. I don't like to bid 2S on a 5332 hand, and I definitely don't like pass.

Thanks for giving me the heart 10 btw, a great card for bidding 1NT.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 18:02

Agree 1NT as this is presented.

** Hijack: how will we ever catch the 1S psych on say 4+H and 0-2xS?
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Posted 2011-July-15, 18:17

Pass. 1NT is extremely dangerous and you could be going for a huge penalty. Opponents are unlimited at this stage.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 18:58

I think this depends on what your system allows your partner to do.

If you bid 1N, can and will partner put you in 3 of a minor with

♠ x
♥ xxx
♦ Qxxxx
♣ Qxxx

or minors reversed?

Even better would be if partner could put you in 2 of a minor.
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Posted 2011-July-15, 19:43

At the table, i decided to pass.

First of all i have to mention that with this first time expert pd, i did not know how he was playing 1 NT (but in OP i gave it to you guys as if u have one), he would probably take it natural had i bid it and he confirmed this after the hand. I normally almost always bid 1 NT, but this particular hand and the vulnerability and lack of agreement led me to pass.

-I could pass and miss a game or a nice partscore

-I could get dbled and bail out some numbers when they can only make partscore at most.

Of course pd had :D

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QJx
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Posted 2011-July-15, 20:12

I think as a general rule with a new (expert) partner, undiscussed bids which sound natural should be assumed natural.
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