[Bbradley62]

Is it really reasonable to think that South wants North to pick a contract above 4♥ when North/South have already tried to sign off in 3♦? Shouldn't South's double be for penalty?

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[pigpenz]

penalty
but where does the point value for the lebensol bid of 2NT come from

[Bbradley62]

pigpenz, on 2011-August-26, 08:46, said:

where does the point value for the lebensol bid of 2NT come from[?]

A North who bids 2NT could be planning to sign off in 3m or could be planning to force to 3N, or some things in between. So, since our North is a passed hand, all we know is that he is 0-11 HCP and 0-12 total points. What's the problem there?

[pigpenz]

i understand but thats not what it says, it doesnt say 0-11 hcp
is playing lebensol against a 2 suit overcall normal?
it would seem that
double=does that show spades then or what
2♠=would be some sort of force
3♣3♦ what would they show
2nt/3♥ are they stayman with heart stopper
3♥ stayman without heart stopper

if GIB were to bid 3NT slow that shows stopper in ♥
but cant possibly say anything about unknown minor

I would say GIB competed on a hand it didnt need to compete on just
because you opened 1NT, just off this auction GIB should expect you to
have 4♠ and 2-2 or 2-3 in minors, I could see where competing at this hand
might be more important at matchpoints then imps.

[Bbradley62]

pigpenz, on 2011-August-26, 17:03, said:

it doesnt say 0-11 hcp

Yes, it does.
"11- HCP" means "11 or fewer high card points", "11 HCP" would mean "exactly 11 high card points", and "11+ HCP" means "11 or more high card points".

[cloa513]

Bbradley62, on 2011-August-25, 18:44, said:

Is it really reasonable to think that South wants North to pick a contract above 4♥ when North/South have already tried to sign off in 3♦? Shouldn't South's double be for penalty?

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East has clear double of 3♦, isn't most likely 3 tricks in the indicated suit enough when partner has done a strong sequence.

[pigpenz]

Bbradley62, on 2011-August-26, 18:55, said:

Yes, it does.
"11- HCP" means "11 or fewer high card points", "11 HCP" would mean "exactly 11 high card points", and "11+ HCP" means "11 or more high card points".

You know i would never have thought of it that way?
11- meaning 0-11
How about less than sign11(sorry ipad doesnt have that symbol)