Imps, 4♥ was strong 2 suiter
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#1
Posted 2011-September-03, 00:41
Imps, 4♥ was strong 2 suiter
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#3
Posted 2011-September-03, 03:43
#4
Posted 2011-September-03, 04:19
A spade void seems inconceivable. I suppose a diamond void is possible if RHO has been very optimistic, but if diamonds are his second suit I can't see how he'll throw them all away.
I think I'd lead ♦A anyway, in case RHO has done something weird with a one-suiter or a 4-7 shape, when it's just conceivable that his diamonds will go on spades.
#5
Posted 2011-September-03, 07:26
#6
Posted 2011-September-03, 08:49
#7
Posted 2011-September-03, 10:08
If N held the blacks, why not 6♠? Maybe he is 5=7/5=8 or even 6=7 with holes in spades.
If N held the minors, think about how many spades S has to hold...how could he double 6♥? And how could N commit to a grand with at best KJxxx in his side suit and no reason to expect to get 5 pitches!
Absent partner's double, I'd lead the heart A, playing partner to be 6=5/6=4 reds and north to be 5=1=0=7. This caters to S having the diamond K, and doesn't cost unless S has at least 6 spades.
But partner doubled. So he has a void. If it is in diamonds, do we need to cash? Probably not. If S's spade suit were solid, wouldn't he bid 6♠?
I just don't see N as holding diamonds. His suit can't warrant 7♣. And if he is, how is he taking 5 discards? It is possible, I suppose, but partner will have surprising spade length and how many entries does S hold?
No, I think that N holds spades, as does S. I'm leading a spade.
#8
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:05
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#9
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:11
#10
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:25
mikeh, on 2011-September-03, 14:11, said:
Thats what i intended to say, ♦ leads seem not to make him gain a ♠ trick but giving away immediately pd's shape.
MrAce, on 2011-September-03, 14:05, said:
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#11
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:34
Of course, declarer should get this right all by himself. The double suggests a void somewhere, and he can use his trump entry to ruff a diamond and confirm that.
#12
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:39
Regardless of what I lead, I think once Haspel ruffs a diamond, he'll get an ironclad count on the hand.
I agree with what Timo is saying. If I do lead a heart, we can all see that ruffing a diamond reveals the 5-0, but would any of us really think to do this?
Partner's spade discard was beyond bad, but after the diamond lead I think he gets it right anyway.
Edit - I think it would have been interesting to present this as play problem.
"You reach 7♣. RHO doubles and looks irritated when LHO tables the ♥A. Plan the play".
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#13
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:41
gnasher, on 2011-September-03, 14:34, said:
Of course, declarer should get this right all by himself. The double suggests a void somewhere, and he can use his trump entry to ruff a diamond and confirm that.
Very true. He may indeed do that. He may also think 3♥ opener doubled with 2 aces. After all it is hard to imagine EAST not doubling with 2 Aces or an Ace outside ♥ suit.(Phil did well on this) As MikeH said perhaps he may go for 3802 ? We will never know since oportunity was not given. ♠ lead though leaves no problem to deal. ♦ A kinda crates alarms for declarer and trump or ♥A requires a careful declarer.
Although i never like to post freak hands and never reply to those topics, I thought that was an interesting hand, i hope u guys liked it.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#14
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:47
Maybe West flies the Ace and now there is a squeeze on the 4th spade and the diamond Q. Highly improbable of course, as is the actual shape, but when one has a zero cost minuscule chance to increase one's odds, it is simply poor play not to take it.
#15
Posted 2011-September-03, 14:48
Phil, on 2011-September-03, 14:39, said:
Edit - I think it would have been interesting to present this as play problem.
"You reach 7♣. RHO doubles and looks irritated when LHO tables the ♥A. Plan the play".
You are absolutely right, though i kinda liked the lead because as oppose to most grandslam leads, this hands seems like to make it cold on only 1 lead (single dummy) while everyone tries to find the only lead that defeats, which doesnt exist against a careful declarer.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#17
Posted 2011-September-03, 15:48
mikeh, on 2011-September-03, 14:47, said:
I can imagine me going down in it. I can see now that it costs nothing to play a club to dummy, ruff a diamond, and then decide what to do, but I'm not sure that I would think of it at the table.
#18
Posted 2011-September-03, 16:24
whereagles, on 2011-September-03, 15:22, said:
Because obviously when our RHO bids like this they have a gang void.
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#19
Posted 2011-September-04, 10:54
#20
Posted 2011-September-04, 11:09
whereagles, on 2011-September-04, 10:54, said:
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