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#1 User is offline   gnasher 

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Posted 2011-November-13, 01:29


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... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-November-13, 01:39

I don't pass. Maybe I'm too much of a hog but I think I'll bid 6♥.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 02:16

5H
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Posted 2011-November-13, 02:23

-Do i wanna play in ♥ suit when pd has ♥A ? Yes

-Do i wanna play in ♦ even if they are solid when pd does not have ♥A ? No, because assume they led ♣, pd ruffed, came to his hand with ♠A cleared trumps but where will he park the club(s) ? Ax x AKQJxxx Jxx something like that. Can be worse if he is void in ♥ suit and they lead trump.

I would bid 6♥ Interesting hand. I hope pd has 2 aces excluding ♣
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Posted 2011-November-13, 02:52

A number of H determined largely at random as I stick my hand into the bidding box :P. A part of me wants to bid slam but another part (presumably the bit that read jlall's post) is cautious to do so with no aces and only a fairly moderate inference that partner has something useful for me in spades.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 02:56

I will admit bidding slam is pretty shocking to me. Guess it could work out, seems pretty random though.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 03:17

5H seems normal. Hope pard's diamonds don't look something similar to my hearts. But even if they do, it doesn't matter much which suit we play in.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 04:03

I would had rather bid a simple 4♥ the previous round. Morning nonsense, though we were 4710, too strong for 4♥

Now I haven't told my story and as others have already said, even when partner will have extreme long diamonds, 5 hearts is gonna play better than 5 diamonds most likelly.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 04:16

Easy 5♥ bid (what do they say about 8 card suits....)
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Posted 2011-November-13, 06:46

What holds partner back? He HAS contracted for 11 tricks.
Two club losers? Only one ace? I'll bet club losers. 6H.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 06:49

With this nine-count I will rebid my almost nine-card suit (the cheapest possible level0.
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Posted 2011-November-13, 12:25

I don't consider this a problem hand.
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Posted 2011-November-14, 02:42

View PostJLOGIC, on 2011-November-13, 02:16, said:

5H





♥♥♥


Yes !!



5♥

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Posted 2011-November-14, 02:44

View Posthan, on 2011-November-13, 12:25, said:

I don't consider this a problem hand.




♥♥♥

We think, you might be right.

Is this helpfull?

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Posted 2011-November-15, 05:25

View Posthan, on 2011-November-13, 12:25, said:

I don't consider this a problem hand.

Thanks, very informative.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-November-15, 05:31

Partner had xx A AKQJxxx xxx, so 6♥ was makeable except on a diamond lead (which would have beaten five, as the cards lay). The opponents could make ten tricks in clubs.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-November-15, 13:58

View Postgnasher, on 2011-November-15, 05:31, said:

Partner had xx A AKQJxxx xxx, so 6♥ was makeable except on a diamond lead (which would have beaten five, as the cards lay). The opponents could make ten tricks in clubs.


So what was your bid at the table Andy ?
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Posted 2011-November-15, 14:22

Having seen partner's hand I will admit that I would have bid 5♥. On some hands where 6♥ makes partner will be able to bid one more. But I cannot justify a slam bid missing 3 first round controls in a crowded auction.
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Posted 2011-November-15, 14:50

I bid 5♥, but I think I should have bid six.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-November-16, 00:15

View Postgnasher, on 2011-November-15, 14:50, said:

I bid 5♥, but I think I should have bid six.


Won't partner bid 5D with almost any opening bid that contains 7 good diamonds? Do you just think it is percentage to bid slam because the opps have bid to 5C so partner doesn't rate to have much wasted in clubs?

I guess another reason to bid 6 is that sometimes when 5 makes 6 makes (and when 6 is down 5 is down). Not sure how often this is.
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