[jillybean]

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[masse24]

4♠

[S2000magic]

I, too, like 4♠, especially white vs red.

[phil_20686]

I too would be heading game wards, but you want to clue partner into the fact that you have some defence, so that he can double 5c when its right. I would start with 2N (offensive raise) and bid 4S over whatever partner does.

[BunnyGo]

4 spades seems correct to me.

[quiddity]

I would just show a 4+ card limit raise and let partner decide.

[daveharty]

I don't get 4S with this hand, especially at matchpoints. With a doubleton in the opponents' suit it's not at all unlikely that you have mirrored distribution, and how many cover cards do you expect partner to provide for the overcall? Agree 100% with quiddity, I would show a limit raise and abide by partner's decision.

[nigel_k]

I would also show a limit raise. They don't appear to have hearts, there is no reason that we shouldn't buy it in 3♠ making and we don't want to encourage partner to bid 5♠ over 5♣. Even the LAWbots should realize that the total trumps is probably 19 but could only be 18.

[neilkaz]

Limit raise for me, this 5332 hand isnt that good and we may have duped distribution.

[Cthulhu D]

Playing with normal people, start with a 2NT limit raise or better. Partner should have a very solid idea of my hand and will hopefully know what to do next.

Playing with my regular partner and light 4 card overcalls (P is probably limited to 14 or so HCP and could have a spade suit lead direct rather than a real overcall and this sort of 'everyone bidding' auction is usually a leading sign partner is joking around), I feel much less ambitious about proceedings, 4S seems unlikely to make. Still I have a nice dummy for spades so I'd start with showing a fitted game try (3C) and won't move over partner's actions.

[jillybean]

Here's the full hand

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Making 5. I think it's difficult to assign blame. North could have a lot less (6+) for the 1♠ bid but South does have 5 good spades.

[the hog]

3C limit raise. Not 4S.

[P_Marlowe]

3C.

Given the bal. nature of your hand, makeing the LoTT bid is not the best,
espesially, if you happen to hold spades.

You are strong enough that game is still an reasonable option, so give it a
try, but dont force it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2012-February-26, 23:13, said:

Here's the full hand

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Making 5. I think it's difficult to assign blame. North could have a lot less (6+) for the 1♠ bid but South does have 5 good spades.

If your 1S overcals start with 6HCP, having 12HCP is better than min.
And if your overcalls start at a very low limit, partner needs more to make
an invite.

Having said this - If you play such wide range overcalls, you need to introduce
mixed raises, one way or the othe, otherwise you will keep guessing, if what you
have is enough or not.
Mixed raises introduce a 3rd rande, (min, med, max) instead of (min,max), making the
ranges of the various sections smaller.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Zelandakh]

I think the North hand has a clear 3red return game try over 3♣. South will then be able to accept happily.

[ahydra]

Agree with 3C. North should bid 4S, esp with the well-placed heart AQ.

ahydra