Non-bridge friends ask you about bridge What's your response?
#1
Posted 2012-February-28, 01:55
About 2 years ago a group of my friends asked me about this game and it took me about an hour to explain how the bidding works, what's declare/dummy/defender and how the trick is taking. After that I started to explain how to calculate the score like 3♠XX+3 and 5NTX-8 white/red, everybody was confused and no one had ever asked me anything about this game anymore .
#3
Posted 2012-February-28, 06:31
#4
Posted 2012-February-28, 06:36
- You can play against people with very different skill levels because it is still a challenge for the experts to get good score against intermediate players.
- You need so many skills: partnership trust, empathy, intuition for probabilities, ability to learn information encoding schemes, memory, visualization, logical reasoning.
I try to use terms familiar to the other people as opposed to bridge terminology. For example "raising the stakes" as opposed to "doubling the contract" when talking to gamblers.
#5
Posted 2012-February-28, 07:41
#6
Posted 2012-February-28, 08:08
I think any explanation that goes on for more than a few paragraphs is likely to be be more than they had in mind when they raised the question. But I always feel I can explain to a neighbor what a mathematician does and what a bridge player does. They won't totally get it, but that's ok.
#7
Posted 2012-February-28, 08:18
So far I only convinced my son, and only bec he was grounded and bored to death - he would have tried anything
#8
Posted 2012-February-28, 08:47
If someone wants to learn how to play, first teach them partnership whist if they do not know it already. This gets them used to how trick taking works in a partnership game. Then the bidding. For this I use a short crib sheet that the player can refer to quickly until they get used to things. At this stage I only refer to aiming for games and slams and the general strength requirements for this. The hardest part of teaching the bidding is very often the Milton Work count - those that hate numbers sometimes get turned off at this point. The final thing is the actual scoring itself which basically fills in the gaps without adding very much.
#9
Posted 2012-February-28, 08:48
I would never try to explain the scoring to a non-bridge-player who asked casually. While it's unquestionably the heart of the game, I think that it adds too much complexity for a beginner. I'll mention the scoring, and that there are opportunities to increase the stakes (those familiar with poker, blackjack, craps, or even backgammon will find that a familiar note), but not explain any of the details.
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#10
Posted 2012-February-28, 09:29
#11
Posted 2012-February-28, 09:55
I tell them some very basic stuff on trick taking and partnership and shift quickly into fun stories from tournaments and the hospitality suites. One I've used is to tell them about a local couple that went to 4-5 tournaments per year and never stayed in a hotel thanks to all the friends they made.
When we had our local Regional their house was full of these people and it was a 5 day party. That usually got their attention.
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#12
Posted 2012-February-28, 10:29
#13
Posted 2012-February-28, 10:53
frank0, on 2012-February-28, 01:55, said:
I say, "its like quilting, only.....tougher".
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#14
Posted 2012-February-28, 11:29
I tell them that it's similar, but you get to say "I expect to take N tricks if X is trumps" instead of it always being spades, and much of the complexity of the game comes from this auction. I also tell them about the partnership aspect, which adds a whole other level -- the process of choosing trumps involves coming up with a coding system to share information about your hands, while the opponents are doing the same thing. And when you're defending, you use the cards you play to help partner figure out what you hold, so he can defend better.
That's about all I go into about the mechanics of the game. I then tell them about being able to play against players of wide abilities, and not be totally overwhelmed. I contrast it with a game like tennis -- if one of us were to go up against a tennis champion, we probably wouldn't return a single serve. While I wouldn't expect to win a match against the Nickell team, I'd at least expect a few winning boards and to have fun while being beaten.
#15
Posted 2012-February-28, 13:13
What, isn't everybody's family Ukranian?
#16
Posted 2012-February-28, 14:59
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#18
Posted 2012-February-28, 20:12
#19
Posted 2012-February-29, 03:14
kenberg, on 2012-February-28, 08:08, said:
OK, a topologist is someone who thinks about things such as whether a donut is the same as a football, that's easy enough. But what does an algebraic geometer do? Or a category theorist?
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#20
Posted 2012-February-29, 03:26
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