[HighLow21]

A series of different threads in the forums prompted me to start this thread. Is anyone else as tired as I am of the psychological bloodletting that's happening in these forums, particularly whenever people here disagree or misunderstand? I could point out a series of threads that demonstrates this to be true, but I don't want to single anyone out.

Here's a call to stop the nonsense. This is a place to discuss and learn about bridge, not to be attacked for disagreeing or using bad style or perhaps stating something that comes across as pompous under a certain reading of the typed text.

Anyone else in agreement?

[mgoetze]

Name some examples which didn't involve yourself.

[HighLow21]

 mgoetze, on 2012-March-28, 13:02, said:

Name some examples which didn't involve yourself.

I suggest you read your signature quote to yourself, Michael. But here's one, since you asked:

http://www.bridgebas...id/page__st__40

[mgoetze]

Oh wow, han made a grumpy post and S2000magic for some reason felt the need to defend himself in detail. Psychological bloodletting? Not quite.

The quote, of course, is from an excellent Wikipedia article which BunnyGo recently recommended to you.

[Phil]

 HighLow21, on 2012-March-28, 13:21, said:

I suggest you read your signature quote to yourself, Michael. But here's one, since you asked:

http://www.bridgebas...id/page__st__40

scratches head...

[hrothgar]

 mgoetze, on 2012-March-28, 13:48, said:

Oh wow, han made a grumpy post and S2000magic for some reason felt the need to defend himself in detail. Psychological bloodletting? Not quite.

The quote, of course, is from an excellent Wikipedia article which BunnyGo recently recommended to you.

Did Russell steal the quote from Yeats or was it the other way around?

Quote

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

[billw55]

I hereby attack this thread.

[S2000magic]

 mgoetze, on 2012-March-28, 13:48, said:

Oh wow, han made a grumpy post and S2000magic for some reason felt the need to defend himself in detail.

It wasn't so much that han's post was grumpy (we all make grumpy posts, yours truly included), but that I think that he was confusing someone else's replies with mine.

[HighLow21]

Alright, the consensus seems to be that I'm not adding any value to the BBO forums, so I'm done here. Thanks everyone.

[S2000magic]

 billw55, on 2012-March-28, 14:05, said:

I hereby attack this thread.

Parry.

[Phil]

 HighLow21, on 2012-March-28, 14:06, said:

Alright, the consensus seems to be that I'm not adding any value to the BBO forums, so I'm done here. Thanks everyone.

If you think 'adding value' includes nominating and electing yourself as the sheriff, or the chaplain of our little cybercommunity, what can I say?

[mgoetze]

Must ... resist ... upvote temptation ...

[billw55]

 HighLow21, on 2012-March-28, 14:06, said:

Alright, the consensus seems to be that I'm not adding any value to the BBO forums, so I'm done here. Thanks everyone.

Oh gosh, it sounds like you want a *serious* reply. Fine ..

I agree, it is better when everyone is friendly and refrains from personal jabs and snide remarks. I have been grumped at a few times myself. I wasn't thrilled but I got over it shortly after closing the browser.

I find your bridge related posts enlightening and helpful. I would like you stay but that is your choice of course. But if you let a few crabby posters drive you off, you are doing the rest of us, and yourself, a disservice.

[HighLow21]

 billw55, on 2012-March-28, 14:11, said:

Oh gosh, it sounds like you want a *serious* reply. Fine ..

I agree, it is better when everyone is friendly and refrains from personal jabs and snide remarks. I have been grumped at a few times myself. I wasn't thrilled but I got over it shortly after closing the browser.

I find your bridge related posts enlightening and helpful. I would like you stay but that is your choice of course. But if you let a few crabby posters drive you off, you are doing the rest of us, and yourself, a disservice.

Thanks Bill, some positive feedback here for a change. I needed it today. But it's more than a few and I'm tired of defending my posts from people who, at this point, seem to just have a desire to stick it to me. They win. Good luck folks.

[nigel_k]

After you have said a couple of things that somebody doesn't agree with, that tends to affect their perception of everything you say afterwards and they take you less seriously as a result. This forum is no better or worse than elsewhere in that respect. But the advantage of an online forum is that you can start again with a different user name.

[barmar]

This is the Internet. As a general rule, people are not as polite as they are in real life. It's unfortunate, but true -- psychologists have been studying it for years (Sherry Turkle of MIT is one of the leading scholars on the subject). So you need to develop a thick skin if you're going to spend any time here. I'm not excusing it, just acknowledging it, since we're not going to change human nature as a result of your request for civility.

You see the same thing on BBO, when people call each other names and racial slurs whenever they make bridge mistakes -- most would rarely do this with a f2f partner.

[mr1303]

Occasionally people say things that occasionally come out a little brusque perhaps. It's not the end of the world. Anything that is genuinely offensive, vulgar etc. soon gets pulled by the moderators, as indeed it should be.

But if you want any good bridge advice, there's no better place to go for it.

[qwery_hi]

That he didn't quite have the values for his bidding?

 Phil, on 2012-March-28, 14:09, said:

If you think 'adding value' includes nominating and electing yourself as the sheriff, or the chaplain of our little cybercommunity, what can I say?

[Vampyr]

HL,

This is the second thread you have started on the subject of "why aren't people nice to me?" I think you need to try to get over yourself.

You charged onto this forum in quite spectacular fashion, making a very bad impression on pretty much everyone. If you have been playing with and against random people on BBO, you have seen some pretty poor players, and it is an easy mistake to assume that this forum was populated by more of the same. It might have been better to read a little first; then you would have seen that among the regular posters is not just a BB runner-up, but at least half a dozen people who have represented their country in international competition, and many more who have respresented their county.

But what's done is done, and since then, a number of people have told you what you can do to avoid attracting negative attention; when you have remembered their advice and kept to it, things have gone OK for you. Keep posting with respect and a measure of humility (or at least lack of arrogance) and you will find your contributions welcomed.

Finally, try to remember that it's not all about you.

[Codo]

BTW: I agree that the tone sometimes is quite harsh.

It is your responsibility to handle it. Some posters left this forum, a lot stayed. It is your choice. But you will not change it. Take the forum as what it is, not as what you want it to be.
If you would leave, I would miss you- I like it when people state their opinion, I may learn from them, even if I do not agree or if I think they wrote crap.

I write some silly things quite often myself and always like the answers- even the not so nice ones. For me, this is the best way to learn something new.