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Does 5 = 6?

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Posted 2012-April-24, 23:16

Here's a hand from the regional, 0-750 pairs. :blink:


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Posted 2012-April-25, 00:37

With 0-10 balanced hands I always pass at red/white.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 01:20

Even my 2 year old niece could tell you that 5 does not equal 6 (especially at this vulnerability, she'd add).
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Posted 2012-April-25, 03:36

At pairs I would open 2D. At Imps I would have no hesitation about passing.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 04:16

In 3rd seat , maybe .
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Posted 2012-April-25, 04:51

First seat, red, vs white, balanced...

No.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-April-25, 04:55

In pairs it is usually a good idea to bid with the field. And the field would pass. If you are looking for other arguments for passing see hanoi's post.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 08:12

Pass.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 08:24

Quite clear to pass. 3rd seat I would bid 2.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 08:38

5332 is a terrible shape to preempt. Bad things happen.

The vulnerability is wrong to step out too.

Change me to xx xx AKQxx xxxx and make it w/w or w/r, then I would.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 08:41


"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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Posted 2012-April-25, 09:30

It's not just that 5332 is a terrible shape, as Phil says...and I agree...it's also that you hold AKQ in a relatively short suit. These are potentially very powerful defensive cards, and you should try to refrain from preemptive auctions with lots of defence. With say 2254 shape, and the same suit, my advice would still be to pass, but make it, say, x xxx KQJ10x QJ9x and I'd be a lot more inclined to want to bid 2...I wouldn't because I was in 1st seat...but I'd be tempted. This OP holding doesn't tempt me at all....in fact the thought of bidding 2 makes me slightly ill.
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Posted 2012-April-25, 17:50

"In pairs it is usually a good idea to bid with the field. And the field would pass."
It depends on the standard of the field. In a top level MPs event you would find many opening 2D, even at this vul.

Well you got an excellent result. In a pairs game you have to take some chances. One of the obvious advantges of opening 2D is that partner knows what to lead if she happens to be on lead. She who dares wins.
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Posted 2012-April-26, 02:09

View Postthe_clown, on 2012-April-25, 04:55, said:

In pairs it is usually a good idea to bid with the field.


If I bid with the field can I expect nothing much better than an average?
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Posted 2012-April-26, 04:08

View Postthe_clown, on 2012-April-25, 04:55, said:

In pairs it is usually a good idea to bid with the field.

This rather depends on your cardplay skills relative to the field. If you are a poor cardplayer but an excellent bidder it makes sense to try and outbid the field when the opportunity arises to take your weakness out of the equation. I freely admit this is a difficult way to win a Pairs event though.
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