[bluejak]

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So the question is what do you choose to call now as North? Teams of four, a multiple teams qualifier [also called Round Robin in many places], straight imps.

The ruling is a simple judgement one: South hesitated noticeably [agreed] over 5♠ and North doubled. This went two off and East asked for a ruling.

Do you adjust the score?

As you will appreciate from a comment in another thread, I was one of the four players at the table and was surprised over the ruling. But I think it is more interesting to see what everyone thinks without telling you which player I was.

[barmar]

I voted for Pass, as I've already shown my hand with the 4NT and 5♦ bids, I think. However, on further reflection, maybe my ability to ruff clubs is an extra surprise that justifies a double.

[gnasher]

I'm not sure what I'm voting on. Is it the unpolluted auction, or the auction that includes a hesitation?

I'd double without the UI, but I think pass is a logical alternative so with the UI I wouldn't double.

[BunnyGo]

I think Id double with or without hesitation. the club void and 2 aces (even if i only expect 1 to cash) is nice.

[c_corgi]

I would like to double and I think it is likely to be a long run winning action. While I have good defence for my bidding to date, I still have a perfectly normal hand for it. The hesitation has removed the downside of double. I would pass because I consider it to be an L/A. If I doubled and it went to ruling, no outcome of the poll would surprise me. Did all those calls other than double and pass appear in the results? If so what did North think of the director polling the perpetrators as his 'peers'?

[bluejak]

I thought the question was very clear, and I am surprised you think otherwise: you are given an auction and asked "What do you rebid as opener after 5S comes round to you?". No hesitation is mentioned in the question.

[lalldonn]

I would always double, with or without UI. I don't see why I'm just supposed to let someone guess to bid 4 then guess again to bid 5 all on his own and not punish him when my defense is this good. If he was that sure of making 11 tricks he would not have bid 4♠ and risked missing slam to begin with.

[aguahombre]

If all of what Lalldonn posted isn't enough to justify the double, how about throwing the word Lightner into the mix?

[blackshoe]

I would double. Pass may be an LA - for wusses. I would double even in the face of partner's break in tempo.

[pran]

I'd like to know the partnership understandings on 4NT and 5♣?

[aguahombre]

 pran, on 2012-July-31, 00:07, said:

I'd like to know the partnership understandings on 4NT and 5♣?

I think we can assume North showed a second suit with longer diamonds, South tried clubs and found out it was diamonds and hearts. If North had clubs, they probably would have been two cards shorter than diamonds; but if hearts, his distribution shown was pretty much what he has.

[FrancesHinden]

 aguahombre, on 2012-July-30, 20:44, said:

If all of what Lalldonn posted isn't enough to justify the double, how about throwing the word Lightner into the mix?

Most people don't play this double as Lightner, they play it as showing defensive tricks. I would never expect a club lead here.

(I am sure if double was Lightner, we would have been told as much in the OP)

[paulg]

I have sympathy with South hesitating on this auction although it would probably not change my ruling on an Appeals Committee. South could have sensibly planned the auction after partner's four notrump but East's delayed five spades bid is very unusual and it is not surprising that he hesitated. Unfortunately, especially as South has not shown any values in the auction so far, the hesitation is significant.

[pran]

I assume that EBU does not have the compulsory STOP procedure with each call at the three level or higher when both sides have made a call other than pass during the last previous round of the auction?

If their STOP regulation (like ours) includes a mandatory STOP in such situations then the hesitation by South is immaterial provided it does not (significantly) exceed 10 seconds.

[campboy]

 pran, on 2012-July-31, 04:37, said:

I assume that EBU does not have the compulsory STOP procedure with each call at the three level or higher when both sides have made a call other than pass during the last previous round of the auction?

No, the EBU rule is that there is a STOP if and only if the call being made is a jump.

[ahydra]

 pran, on 2012-July-31, 04:37, said:

I assume that EBU does not have the compulsory STOP procedure with each call at the three level or higher when both sides have made a call other than pass during the last previous round of the auction?

If their STOP regulation (like ours) includes a mandatory STOP in such situations then the hesitation by South is immaterial provided it does not (significantly) exceedes 10 seconds.

Nope, we only have to STOP before an opening of 2C or higher, or any jump bid.

And as for the poll: I'll double.

ahydra

[RMB1]

 bluejak, on 2012-July-30, 16:31, said:

No hesitation is mentioned in the question.

But "hesitation" managed to sneak into the topic title, and I think we can imagine where the hesitation occured.

[pran]

 campboy, on 2012-July-31, 04:40, said:

No, the EBU rule is that there is a STOP if and only if the call being made is a jump.

Pity

[aguahombre]

 FrancesHinden, on 2012-July-31, 03:22, said:

Most people don't play this double as Lightner, they play it as showing defensive tricks. I would never expect a club lead here.

(I am sure if double was Lightner, we would have been told as much in the OP)

Sorry for using that word. My double, however, might carry an inference I am much more likely to be 2-5-6-0 as opposed to 0-5-6-2.

[bluejak]

 RMB1, on 2012-July-31, 04:41, said:

But "hesitation" managed to sneak into the topic title, and I think we can imagine where the hesitation occured.

The thread is about a hesitation case, hence the title.

The poll is about the bidding sequence without the hesitation to aid the decision.

Is it not normal to poll the bidding without the hesitation?