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#1 User is offline   TWO4BRIDGE 

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Posted 2012-August-18, 02:17

Case 1:
1S - 1NTF
3S - 4C = ??

Case 2:
1S - 1NTF
4S - 5C = ??
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Posted 2012-August-18, 02:45

both agree spades...


You cant play clubs!


You can never never play clubs.....
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Posted 2012-August-18, 07:38

Agree. If the bid had been a different suit these bids might be natural, but not here.
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Posted 2012-August-18, 12:32

The first feels like a cuebid. The second feels like DNE.
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Posted 2012-August-18, 13:34

View PostSiegmund, on 2012-August-18, 12:32, said:

The first feels like a cuebid. The second feels like DNE.

DNE = ??
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Posted 2012-August-19, 20:11

1 then 3/4 sets spades as trump, therefore cuebid. However if it had been a new suit, 1 1NT 3 for instance, you have to make an agreement on what 4 is
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Posted 2012-August-20, 21:02

DNE = Does Not Exist.

Sorry, thought it was a common usage for bids that are deliberately left undefined in a system.

If opener has a hand just a little bit better than an opening 4S preempt, and responder only had enough for 1NT, there should be no such thing as a hand where he wants to take a second call.
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Posted 2012-August-21, 04:54

Both cue. For me 3 demands a cue if I have one, but as we bid 1st or 2nd round controls, a splinter is a cue.
1 1NT 4 itself is DNE for me, so as responder I would think maybe he is just short of a 2, kicking himself about opening 1, and forgetting about the existence of the 3. (This sort of thing happens in my partnerships.) So with a pretty good 1NT I cue.
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