Weirdest/worst agreements you've encountered at the table?
#181
Posted 2013-February-26, 11:31
#182
Posted 2013-February-27, 01:34
manudude03, on 2013-February-26, 11:31, said:
In some other parts of the world it is completely standard for a NT opening or rebid to deny a 5 card major. I agree that it would be unusual if x were a minor but certainly less unusual for many than rebidding a 2 card suit with a strong one-suiter and some other peculiarites of Standard American. I imagine several of them could make it onto a list like this one on another forum.
#183
Posted 2013-February-27, 02:43
Zelandakh, on 2013-February-27, 01:34, said:
I'm not unused to the idea of rebidding short suits, but for these guys, a new suit absolutely guaranteed 4 as well, this meant that if they had Ax 65432 AQx AKx, they have to open 1H and rebid 3H (they play a weak nt)
#184
Posted 2013-February-27, 10:38
manudude03, on 2013-February-27, 02:43, said:
I think they could safely deny a 5-card heart suit, if a 3H rebids were the alternative.
#185
Posted 2013-March-03, 15:49
Fluffy, on 2012-August-25, 05:07, said:
3♥-double
I was 2NT opener, when it was my turn I asked RHO about the double, and she said asks for a heart lead obviously!. My partner had already bid 3NT not caring to ask, and we end up in 4♥ making the same 11 tricks as everyone else losing 2 tricks to lefties ♥AQx
10 years after this same lady did it again
1♦-1♠
1Nt-3♥ -double!
And once again I couldn't get my +730 and had to stand as dummy making the average +630 GRRRRRRRRRR. This time at least she managed to double for a lead when actually her partner was on lead.
#186
Posted 2013-March-03, 16:57
#187
Posted 2013-March-03, 17:08
manudude03, on 2013-March-03, 16:57, said:
Somebody tried to play this with me among a whole load of weird ideas, it was the one thing I vetoed.
#188
Posted 2013-March-03, 17:29
(3C)-3D (takeout of clubs)-(P)-4D is both majors, so I asked how do I show diamonds, he didn't have an answer.
I would say it would be the 2nd worst system I've ever played, the worst being a 16-18 NT with no conventions (not even stayman) over it, the only convention on the card was gerber (well, and takeout doubles)
#189
Posted 2013-March-03, 17:47
2♣-2♦ (positive)
2NT
with 3=5=0=5. Afterward she said she just wanted to hear more about her partner's hand. Which, OK, it's a weird psyche but whatever, but then she said, "I do this all the time!"
Next day, sectional Flight A Swiss, a pair plays 3♦ over both natural *and* artificial 2♦ openings is Michaels. (In this case it was a Precision 2♦ showing the other three suits.)
#191
Posted 2013-March-05, 13:22
TylerE, on 2013-March-05, 13:15, said:
True to some extent (e.g., knowing you play Fishbein doesn't make up for the fact that you play Fishbein), though they also insisted it didn't require an alert. There was a bit of a contretemps between them and a TD.
#192
Posted 2013-March-05, 13:23
TylerE, on 2013-March-05, 13:15, said:
That principal can be taken too far. For example, if you know that you play that a 7NT opening shows a 5-4-3-1 10 count, at least you know what to bid if that hand comes along. But it would still be incredibly silly.
#193
Posted 2013-March-05, 14:09
GreenMan, on 2013-March-05, 13:22, said:
Rule 1: Don't argue with the TD.
Rule 2: If the TD is wrong, see rule 1.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#194
Posted 2013-March-06, 10:40
#195
Posted 2013-March-26, 15:07
TylerE, on 2013-February-08, 12:01, said:
A Dutch ex-pair which played in the Dutch highest Premier League played this, a 2♦ opener showing 18-19 bal and a natural system next to that. So it can not really be such a bad thing, I guess...
#196
Posted 2013-March-26, 18:47
Adriaantje, on 2013-March-26, 15:07, said:
In the hands of inexperienced players who do this because they read somewhere is is cool, it is brutal. For the strong players, I don't see the upside. The downsides are better use of 2D opening and the occasional hands where they get to play in 2N or worse instead of 1m.
#197
Posted 2013-March-27, 03:59
#198
Posted 2013-March-27, 04:17
Adriaantje, on 2013-March-26, 15:07, said:
Pretty sure they had a conventional 2NT rebid over 1m-1M; right? His point was that they played 2♦ as 18-19 balanced but they didn't use this for their advantage in their 1m auctions.
George Carlin
#199
Posted 2013-March-27, 06:11
For once I was glad I'd preempted cautiously on the South hand, and given them room for this disaster. My partner very kindly led the ♥A, then another one, and then he turned up with a couple more tricks...
As for other dubious agreements, I saw a pair playing 2♣ as "4-11, 4432, 4441, 4450, 5431, or 6430, with at least 3 clubs". They had some quite intricate followups...
#200
Posted 2013-March-28, 10:49
Or is that just snark?