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Recently I witnessed the following auction including the explanations as given
1S (5+spades, 11-16) 2C (Any game force)
2D (sub minimum) 2S (to play)
pass
Amy comments?
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Posted 2013-May-12, 17:56
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Posted 2013-May-12, 18:01
Bad_Wolf, on 2013-May-12, 17:56, said:
Recently I witnessed the following auction including the explanations as given
1S (5+spades, 11-16) 2C (Any game force)
2D (sub minimum) 2S (to play)
pass
Any comments?
1S (5+spades, 11-16) 2C (Any game force)
2D (sub minimum) 2S (to play)
pass
Any comments?
. Such calls are illegal in some jurisdictions.
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Posted 2013-May-12, 19:03
nige1, on 2013-May-12, 18:01, said:
If 2♦ shows that the 1♠ opening is worse than specified by their system, then 2♣ is a psych (or deviation) control... similar to Drury . Such calls are illegal in some jurisdictions.
. Such calls are illegal in some jurisdictions.AND MI.
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Posted 2013-May-12, 19:18
Whether the 2♣ bid is legal depends on what conventions are allowed where you play. It's not legal anywhere to describe it as a "game force" if it's not.
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Posted 2013-May-13, 02:43
It looks like that the correct explanation for the 2♣ bid would have been: "any gameforce, except partner's strength is less than xxx". If this is what they really play, it was legal if explained correctly.
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Posted 2013-May-13, 09:41
It look primarily to be a disclosure issue:
1♠ = 5+, our agreement may be 11-16, but we understand it could be weaker
2♣ = forcing, artificial, forcing to game except opposite a "sub minimum" opening
2♦ = subminimum, 0-10 I guess
2♠ = non forcing, to play
In various places 1♠ may not be permitted unless it is 8+HCP, and artificial non-GF responses such as 2♣ are not always permitted.
1♠ = 5+, our agreement may be 11-16, but we understand it could be weaker
2♣ = forcing, artificial, forcing to game except opposite a "sub minimum" opening
2♦ = subminimum, 0-10 I guess
2♠ = non forcing, to play
In various places 1♠ may not be permitted unless it is 8+HCP, and artificial non-GF responses such as 2♣ are not always permitted.
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Posted 2013-May-13, 09:50
As soon as the 2♠ bid is alerted or explained as to play either defender has a case for bidding if 2♣ had been properly explained as any invitational plus.
Come close enough to making that case and I'm adjusting in your favor.
Unless 1♠ was a flat out psyche and 2♠ WAS a legit continuation (slam try or probing for 3nt) we need to have a little chat with this pair. If this was the case, we still need to have a little chat with this pair.
Come close enough to making that case and I'm adjusting in your favor.
Unless 1♠ was a flat out psyche and 2♠ WAS a legit continuation (slam try or probing for 3nt) we need to have a little chat with this pair. If this was the case, we still need to have a little chat with this pair.
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