[PhilKing]

Double = 10
Pass = 7
2♠ = 0
3♣ = 0

I don't believe double is a relay. It should show, of all things, diamonds. With the relay hand, pass the transfer, see what kind of a mess they make of it, then double for takeout if appropriate on the next round. Had they bid a natural 2M, then double should be for take-out.

On this hand, worrying about whether partner has clubs or not is an excercise in futility. Put it this way, if partner does have clubs, it ain't our hand (we can't even be sure of beating a grand slam and 5♣ will go for a monkey more often than not), and if partner has the majors, just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Double gets ten because if they finish in no trumps, I want a diamond lead (or rather I don't want a spade lead). Pass gets seven, because at least it prevents a fiasco. 2♠ gets zero, because it shows spades, so bidding it on xx is somewhat perverse. Bids like this should definitely not be pass or correct, particularly here. Actually, everything should get a zero, since we are playing a crackpot convention without having discussed our continuations.

[gszes]

this is one of those situations where making a rational dec ision is difficult
without knowing the rest of partners options because it is just as important
to know the significance of what p did NOT bid as it is to hear what they bid.

For example i noticed you did not say p promised CLUBS or MAJORS. Could
the x mean a RELAY to 2c (for potential 1 suited hands)????

IF the bid means specifically clubs OR majors I see little reason to get involved
since it looks unlikely we have a good club sac at even and if p had both
majors defending 2h is probably better than playing 2s. If the bid could also
be 1 suited hands X of 2d looks good since it should also imply no major
suit interest and caters to the possiblity p has clubs dia or spades 1 suited hand.

[fromageGB]

No one seems to have bid 2♥, which is my choice. For me this is a takeout of hearts, and while I would prefer partner to bid 3♣ I will accept the rare 2♠.

[nige1]

jillybean, on 2013-June-10, 10:47, said:

You are playing a system where (1N) X is a transfer to clubs or both majors.
2♦ is a transfer to hearts, would you bid 3♣ here?

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IMO Pass=10, Double = 9. 2♠ = 5. Here, a possible interpretation of calls is:

• Double = ♦ (lead-directional or penalty interest).
• Pass = ♥ (or nothing to say).
• 2♥ = ♥ cue-bid: High card raise (both black suits).
• 2♠ = Pass/correct: ♣ support with ♠ tolerance.
• 2N = Artificial enquiry with game interest somewhere.
• 3♣ = Pass/correct: good ♠ support with ♣ tolerance.
• 3♦ = ♦ splinter (both black suits).
• 3♥ = ♥ splinter raise (both black suits).
• 3♠.. = Pre-emptive (both black suits).

[jillybean]

Thanks for bumping this, it reminds me to chat with my partner on the way to the club this morning.
I was hoping someone had played these methods and could offer advice (other than don't play it), I didn't really
want to turn this into a general discussion on your favorite method.

[kael chi]

East has 3hearts and he bid 2♦ to transfer?

[fromageGB]

jillybean, on 2013-June-28, 08:30, said:

Thanks for bumping this, it reminds me to chat with my partner on the way to the club this morning.
I was hoping someone had played these methods and could offer advice (other than don't play it), I didn't really
want to turn this into a general discussion on your favorite method.

If someone, somewhere, has actually played this method, I'm sure they would have dropped it as soon as it came up, so I can't see what possible advice there could be other than "don't play it".