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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2013-August-17, 12:23



Partner forgot to correct to 6D. Lose 17 :(
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Posted 2013-August-17, 14:16

"Forgot"? Nah. Partner doubled 2♦ and then he fell asleep. Or lost his mind.
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Posted 2013-August-17, 20:34

ouch,,, owie..... ugh.... 50% good bidding, 50% SAY WHAT!!!!!
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Posted 2013-August-17, 21:32

If double showed diamonds, why didn't you correct to 6♦ yourself? If double did not show diamonds, why did you blast to slam immediately?
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Posted 2013-August-19, 10:07

Double of Michaels/Unu2NT typically just shows values, with interest in doubling at least one of the opponent's suits. It's likely that partner has a fit with an honor in at least one of your minors, and there isn't really any way to ask -- If you jump to 5♣ would partner know to raise to 6 with Jxx?

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Posted 2013-August-19, 10:51

I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 10:56

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-August-19, 10:51, said:

I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself.


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Posted 2013-August-19, 11:04

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-August-19, 10:51, said:

I've never understood why correcting is beyond the scope of many players. I've had virtually the same auction and result myself.

I have to agree with you. ROFL at not correcting here but I see it too often, most recently when I opened 1♦ and rebid 5♣ on my next turn with a hand slightly worse than the OP hand here.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 11:16

I've occasionally caught the BBO robot failing to correct in a situation like this. So I guess we could call North's pass "robotic".

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Posted 2013-August-19, 11:17

View Postmr1303, on 2013-August-17, 12:23, said:



Partner forgot to correct to 6D. Lose 17 :(


Nah, that's nothing. At our table:



West (South actually), on lead with both major Aces, leads the ♥A and we make it. One of the more embarassing ways to win 17 :) :unsure:

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Posted 2013-August-19, 16:35

View Postahydra, on 2013-August-19, 11:17, said:

Nah, that's nothing. At our table:



West (South actually), on lead with both major Aces, leads the ♥A and we make it. One of the more embarassing ways to win 17 :) :unsure:

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We were a bit surprised that 2♦, rather than the strong 1♣, was the opening of choice for our south.

After this we wondered whether anyone plays a Michaels bid after a Multi opening? We've always had 4m showing that minor and a major, but have now agreed to use 4♣ to show majors when the Multi could be a "strong" minor.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 18:31

View Postmgoetze, on 2013-August-17, 21:32, said:

If double showed diamonds, why didn't you correct to 6♦ yourself? If double did not show diamonds, why did you blast to slam immediately?


I would ask - why not? Unless of course you want to walk the dog a bit. I bid the same as OP with this hand but when our team mates brought back 6Dx+1 I wished I'd taken it a bit more slowly.
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Posted 2013-August-19, 21:15

What's the point of posting this hand? To embarrass partner?
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Posted 2013-August-20, 05:09

Check your notes, maybe it says "everything above 5NT is to play".
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Posted 2013-August-20, 08:34

View Postf0rdy, on 2013-August-19, 16:35, said:

Alternatively:


We were a bit surprised that 2♦, rather than the strong 1♣, was the opening of choice for our south.

After this we wondered whether anyone plays a Michaels bid after a Multi opening? We've always had 4m showing that minor and a major, but have now agreed to use 4♣ to show majors when the Multi could be a "strong" minor.


We had a similar issue on the hand:



Lacking a both majors bid in our agreements (in hindsight a pretty big hole) i think what partner did was fair enough. the 5D bidder was concerned about her aceless hand and the 2D opener wished they'd opened something else i think.
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Posted 2013-August-20, 08:37

it is hard to find hands where 6♣ plays better than 6♦, but they do exist (using clubs for diamond finesses) partner not correcting is crazy. But if you know your partner well enough perhaps you shouldn't even bid clubs.
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Posted 2013-August-20, 13:17

My textbook didn't tell me what to bid with 6-6 hands so I decided that opening 1D then rebid 6C would communicate an ability to make 12 tricks in the preferred minor.

Maybe a touch agricultural, but yet to see anything better.
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Posted 2013-August-21, 01:54

You could always open an unusual 5NT. B-)

And yes, there is a group of players that think almost any game or slam bid (except 4NT, 5NT, 5M) is automatically a sign off and means they can stop thinking. That seems to be what happened here.
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Posted 2013-August-21, 01:58

'I didn't know what to do so I passed.' :ph34r:
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Posted 2013-August-21, 12:48

View Postgwnn, on 2013-August-21, 01:58, said:

'I didn't know what to do so I passed.' :ph34r:

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