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#1 User is offline   lxt08 

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Posted 2014-September-04, 18:27

We all know that the bbo game has Double Dummy.
http://www.bridgebas.../67861-how-bid/
http://www.bridgebas...ot-allowed-ask/
I can understand my two penalty.


opp open 1S. NS I Select pass.
pd 2H think for a moment I pass.
play i find W have two S.
I find referee.
say why E bid 1S?
referee to we A+- N/A 60.00%
I found cheating Players.
I will send an email BBO.
email:abuse@bridgebase.com
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Posted 2014-September-04, 18:33

No one cheated... East psyched... that is probably against the rules of the tournament you played, which is why the director (not "referee") awarded the adjusted score. But it's not something to write to abuse about.
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Posted 2014-September-04, 18:34

If you find other examples of similar actions by the same players, then maybe there's a pattern that is worth reporting.
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Posted 2014-September-04, 18:50

ok... the same pair sat NS here, 5 boards earlier:

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Posted 2014-September-04, 19:16

how do you find results of other people?
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Posted 2014-September-04, 19:34

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-September-04, 18:50, said:

ok... the same pair sat NS here, 5 boards earlier:




you find referee.
The referee will give you compensation.
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Posted 2014-September-04, 20:06

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-September-04, 18:33, said:

No one cheated... East psyched... that is probably against the rules of the tournament you played, which is why the director (not "referee") awarded the adjusted score. But it's not something to write to abuse about.


How can this be? It is illegal to prohibit psyches.

I don't even think it is legal to restrict psyches, as some jurisdictions do.
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Posted 2014-September-04, 21:18

The problem is definitely wests bidding not easts.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 01:57

View PostVampyr, on 2014-September-04, 20:06, said:

How can this be? It is illegal to prohibit psyches.

I don't even think it is legal to restrict psyches, as some jurisdictions do.


BBO tournies are not bound by our earthly rules. Though repeated red psyches within a single session might still be considered bad form.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 02:12

First of all to the OP - it is fine to report a suspicious pair to abuse but you should not post details here. Your hand records are available for everyone to see so it is effectively a public accusation of cheating and therefore against the TOU for the site.

Secondly, the pair in question certainly play an unusual game with a psyche on almost every hand but somehow always landing right side up, unlike cluelessness. My guess is that the same player is controlling both accounts. For the record the monthly averages are +3.11 IMPs/bd and 65.74%
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Posted 2014-September-05, 02:57

View Postwank, on 2014-September-04, 19:16, said:

how do you find results of other people?


http://bridgebase.co...hands/index.php
You can search anybody by entering the username.

I looked up a hand on which someone at the website of our club reported a very nicely played squeeze and found out he had not played the squeeze but found it afterwards in his analysis.
And by the way he declared the hand he obviously had not included any squeeze in his plan.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 06:32

Statement about

My intention is not to let everyone know who was playing double dummy.
But must be met by the referee looking to return to their score.
This may be the only way to deal with such problems.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 06:36

View Postlxt08, on 2014-September-05, 06:32, said:

This may be the only way to deal with such problems.

The way to deal with such matters is to email abuse@bbo.com, as you already mentioned. Posting here is not "the only way". Even if BBO ban the 2 accounts involved, how difficult do you think it will be to create 2 new ones? In the meantime you could find yourself banned if you make a habit of doing this.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 10:43

View PostVampyr, on 2014-September-04, 20:06, said:

How can this be? It is illegal to prohibit psyches.

I don't even think it is legal to restrict psyches, as some jurisdictions do.

You must be new to BBO B-)

I don't know what f2f clubs do, but online tournaments frequently prohibit psyches. I just checked the list of free upcoming pairs tournaments, and both of those whose instructions are in English prohibit psyches. Ok, one said "no bluff bids", but I presume that's roughly the same thing.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 11:04

I think psych is also forbidden in Italy at club level.

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Posted 2014-September-05, 15:00

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-September-05, 10:43, said:

You must be new to BBO B-)


Well, I don't play on BBO. But I think that to call the game "bridge" they have to play according to the Laws.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 15:17

View PostVampyr, on 2014-September-05, 15:00, said:

Well, I don't play on BBO. But I think that to call the game "bridge" they have to play according to the Laws.

The WBF Women's Online Festival, that I believe is run twice a year and organised by the WBF, prohibits psychs.

From the CoC (PDF):

"Psychic are forbidden: TD will assess a 60%-40% score or will confirm the table score if poorer."

So you may not call it bridge, but the WBF presumably would not least because I raised the issue with them in 2009 and they have never changed the regulation.
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Posted 2014-September-05, 21:48

I'd love to know how they prohibit psyches without penalising misbids.
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Posted 2014-September-06, 01:19

View PostVampyr, on 2014-September-05, 21:48, said:

I'd love to know how they prohibit psyches without penalising misbids.

They're not always successful in this.
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Posted 2014-September-06, 02:34

View PostVampyr, on 2014-September-04, 20:06, said:

How can this be? It is illegal to prohibit psyches.

I don't even think it is legal to restrict psyches, as some jurisdictions do.

I agree with the first point. For the second, it is usually justified by the fact that Law 40B2a gives the RA powers to "allow conditionally[] any special partnership understanding", so a regulation allowing multi on condition that it isn't psyched is considered legal.
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