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Forcing or no Forcing?
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Posted 2014-September-14, 17:52
sys 2/1.now s bid 3s Forcing or no Forcing?
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Posted 2014-September-14, 18:13
lxt08, on 2014-September-14, 17:52, said:
sys 2/1.now s bid 3s Forcing or no Forcing?
Forcing to me.
One may argue that this should show a very weak support and started with 1 NT and trying to stop on a dime, but then I think you will disable yourself from bidding 3♠ with 3 card limit raise bids vs a 18-19 hcp hand which is borderline slam hands.
At MP you may use it NF I guess, since going plus is more important than seeking slams.
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Posted 2014-September-14, 18:19
100% force. If Responder has a hand with support but not enough to bid game, he passes. 3S is forcing with mild slam interest.
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Posted 2014-September-14, 18:56
For me, if I have started with 1NT (Forcing) because I have a balanced three-card limit raise for spades, I'm bidding either 3NT or 4♠ at my second call. If I started with 1NT forcing because I haven't got a game force, I pass 2NT, unless given partner's extras I see a game. Anything other than pass is forcing, unless I'm playing Wolff signoff or something.
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Posted 2014-September-15, 01:12
Nf to me. 3h would be forcing because responder may want to offer choice of game with five hearts but other than that, responder knows enough to place the contract
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Posted 2014-September-15, 01:49
Standard 2/1 lore says 1NT with fit usually shows one of (a) weakish hand or (b) invitational hand.
If 2NT shows a balanced 18-19, then, on "fast arrival" grounds, 3♠ is the invitational hand and 4♠ the weakish one.
If 2NT shows a balanced 18-19, then, on "fast arrival" grounds, 3♠ is the invitational hand and 4♠ the weakish one.
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Posted 2014-September-15, 11:33
First question, which raises are go via a 1NT response, only the inv. raise
or the grap raise with 4-7 and fit.
If only the inv. raise, 3S is forcing, 3S should show a fit, without a fit,
why try to play a level higher, to be sucessful, this needs to play at least
2 tricks better.
If the grap raise is part of the 1NT raise, there is a case for NF, but with
22-25 and a major suit fit, I want to play game, NF may make sense at MP, not
so much at IMPs.
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or the grap raise with 4-7 and fit.
If only the inv. raise, 3S is forcing, 3S should show a fit, without a fit,
why try to play a level higher, to be sucessful, this needs to play at least
2 tricks better.
If the grap raise is part of the 1NT raise, there is a case for NF, but with
22-25 and a major suit fit, I want to play game, NF may make sense at MP, not
so much at IMPs.
With kind regards
Marlowe
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