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#1 User is offline   mgoetze 

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Posted 2015-March-10, 19:19

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The trade that sent quarterback Sam Bradford from the Rams to the Eagles was surprising when news of it first emerged. It’s now become downright confusing.

The Eagles have announced the deal, which consists of Bradford for Nick Foles plus three draft picks. The Eagles get from St. Louis a 2015 fifth-round pick, and the Rams get from Philadelphia a 2015 fourth-round pick and a 2016 second-round pick.

While the announcement doesn’t mention any other terms, Albert Breer of NFL Media reports that, if Bradford doesn’t start eight games, the Eagles get a fourth-round pick back from the Rams. Likewise, if Bradford is injured, the Eagles get a third-round pick from the Rams. (The trigger for the “injury” condition isn’t known. Possibly, the third-round pick becomes and issue only if Bradford suffers a season ending injury before Week One.)


I thought the Kiko Alonso for LeSean McCoy trade was pretty smart, but this ... this is madness. I mean they are giving up all these draft picks for the privilege of paying Sam Bradford $13 million dollars to maybe play football?

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Posted 2015-March-10, 20:07

The whole day has been incredible. Lol.
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Posted 2015-March-10, 23:11

Kelly thinks Bradford is a big upgrade for his system.


If upgrade the price is cheap.

IF system is more important then price is cheap.


If making Kelly GM was a mistake then none of this matters. the owner is to blame.

the issue is giving Kelly this power.
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Posted 2015-March-11, 00:02

let us all take a moment to LOL 9ers.
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Posted 2015-March-11, 07:03

View Postjjbrr, on 2015-March-11, 00:02, said:

let us all take a moment to LOL 9ers.

I don't need a moment for that - it is automatic any time their record is significantly worse than the Cowboys. Similarly for Washington, Philly and the Giants. :) To my mind anything that is bad for the Eagles is great news, so if this trade goes the way posters are expecting I think it is perfect! :D
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Posted 2015-March-11, 07:39

Admit I am baffled by the Foles-Bradford deal. Foles seems to be a middle of the road starter, while Bradford is beyond hope of ever playing much.

I have heard a couple people pushing the theory that this is an intermediate step in a scheme by Kelley to land Mariota. Not sure what to think of that.
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Posted 2015-March-11, 10:52

View Postbillw55, on 2015-March-11, 07:39, said:

Admit I am baffled by the Foles-Bradford deal. Foles seems to be a middle of the road starter, while Bradford is beyond hope of ever playing much.

I have heard a couple people pushing the theory that this is an intermediate step in a scheme by Kelley to land Mariota. Not sure what to think of that.

That might make sense if the Eagles had netted draft position, but they actually gave more than they got in the way of draft picks - how's that going to help you land Mariota? I can't imagine any team giving up a first round pick for Bradford. Well except maybe the Jets... they are the Jets after all...
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Posted 2015-March-11, 15:36

View Postbillw55, on 2015-March-11, 07:39, said:

Admit I am baffled by the Foles-Bradford deal. Foles seems to be a middle of the road starter, while Bradford is beyond hope of ever playing much.

I have heard a couple people pushing the theory that this is an intermediate step in a scheme by Kelley to land Mariota. Not sure what to think of that.

Bradford is beyond hope of ever playing much?

Did he have to pass a physical or do the Eagles just not care?
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Posted 2015-March-11, 18:34

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Bradford is beyond hope of ever playing much?

He's beyond hope of ever playing well.

http://www.sportsone...ce-sam-bradford
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Posted 2015-March-12, 06:25

View Postmike777, on 2015-March-11, 15:36, said:

Did he have to pass a physical or do the Eagles just not care?

Right. It doesn't add up. There obviously must have been a physical. But I would think his history would sway the decision even if the doctors clear him. Two ACL tears, come on.

Maybe Chip Kelley is some kind of mad genius or something. Or not. Let's see what he does next.


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Posted 2015-March-12, 14:06

View Postbillw55, on 2015-March-12, 06:25, said:

Right. It doesn't add up. There obviously must have been a physical. But I would think his history would sway the decision even if the doctors clear him. Two ACL tears, come on.

Maybe Chip Kelley is some kind of mad genius or something. Or not. Let's see what he does next.


Go after DeMarco Murray apparently, which should help any QB.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 14:30

View Postbillw55, on 2015-March-12, 06:25, said:

Right. It doesn't add up. There obviously must have been a physical. But I would think his history would sway the decision even if the doctors clear him. Two ACL tears, come on.

Maybe Chip Kelley is some kind of mad genius or something. Or not. Let's see what he does next.



He ran the spread offense at OU back in 2010 so Kelly must love that.

Of course it just takes one clean hit to knock out any QB but I hope Kelly knows or gets some medical advice about the two ACL tears.

Now in Chicago we have a QB that perhaps Chip will trade for. :)
Looks like Chip got Murray.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 14:51

View PostCyberyeti, on 2015-March-12, 14:06, said:

Go after DeMarco Murray apparently, which should help any QB.

Got him. Apparently Murray and Bradford were roommates at Oklahoma. Could this be the entire reason for getting Bradford?
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Posted 2015-March-12, 15:29

View Postbillw55, on 2015-March-12, 14:51, said:

Got him. Apparently Murray and Bradford were roommates at Oklahoma. Could this be the entire reason for getting Bradford?

I'm sure if they had just given Murray the $13m they are paying Bradford that would have convinced him to play for them too.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 19:52

Cardinals are mortgaging the future, kicking $7m of Carson Palmer cap hits down the road via contract restructure.

Chip Kelly confirmed crazy. 5y/$40m for Murray with $20m guaranteed. How on earth is Demarco Murray worth more than twice as much as Shane Vereen?
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Posted 2015-March-12, 21:26

Again the owners put all this power in one person's hand. That is where the blame or credit lies.
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Posted 2015-March-13, 17:29

Why would you give up a draft pick to pay Mike Wallace $9.85m when you could just wait for him to be cut and sign him for $4m?
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Posted 2015-March-13, 19:28

I am an Eagles fan and I am fine with the moves Kelly made.

We will see how they work out. But I make the Eagles the favorite in the NFC East.
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Posted 2015-March-14, 04:18

Well, if winning the NFC Least is your goal, you are setting the bar pretty low. ;)
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Posted 2015-March-14, 04:19

This is sad. I thought Chip Kelly is a great coach, but now he seems to have a terrible GM. :(
(I bet Bill Simmons will come up with a name for this phenomenon. Maybe a Doc Rivers award?)
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