[kenberg]

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Your call.

It's matchpoints. You are not playing anything exotic. The 1H showed hearts, presumably at least a 6 count or something close to it. A rebid of 3D is, I suppose this goes without saying, strong but not forcing. I didn't and don't think the hand warrants a 2C opening despite this foreseeable problem. I acknowledge that I should have thought about what I was going to do after a major suit response when I opened 1D, I was lazy and didn't, but I think i would still have opened 1D.

Whatever is right or wrong on this particular specific full deal, I am interested in what you think is a good plan with this hand.

[eagles123]

edit: I somehow missed that we can just bid 1s that is obviously right

[wank]

1s - nobody ever passes this unless their original response was a joke, and if it was, we might not be able to make anything anyway.

[ArtK78]

I would bid 3♦. If this gets passed it may very well be the last plus score. It won't be passed very often when 3NT is cold.

[Jinksy]

2♠. I don't expect P to have responded on total junk at this vul, and if he did, maybe he'll pass my force anyway.

[helene_t]

2nt for me, I don't really see the advante of 1♠ but 2♠ of course has the advantage that it is forcing.

[Cyberyeti]

Playing standard either 1♠ or 2♠, if I bid 1♠ it's very likely partner will bid 1N and I can bid 3♥ showing this sort of power and 4351/4360 which is at least close to what I have. 2♠ has the advantage of being forcing. The problem with a 2N rebid is what is partner supposed to do with say xxx, KQ10x, Qx, xxxx ? bid 3N ? 4♥ will likely score better even if 3N makes.

[marcD]

helene_t, on 2015-April-04, 12:40, said:

2nt for me, I don't really see the advante of 1♠ but 2♠ of course has the advantage that it is forcing.

I like the idea but it looks more like a 2NT opening rather than a 2NT rebid .The 2♦ and 2♣ are easily confused

[mike777]

2nt now.

I esp prefer this if it shows an old fashion 19-20 range.

[vinchy]

(Not so familiar with MPs)

4♥ or 3♦, depending on how I read my partner and opponents on the day

For most cases, I would want to be in 4♥ even with a 4-3 fit.

Unless the feel is that partner has a poor 4 heart + poor and long club suit

[mike777]

perhaps this is too old fashion but cannot 1h be only 3 card suit over 1d.


this assumes we bid a chunky 1h rather than 1nt.

anyway

option1=2nt
option2=3d

not stated but pls note partner did not bid 2c as a passed hand.

[dave_beer]

2♠.

I don't like jump-shifting into a 3-card suit but I don't think I have any choice. 1♠ is not forcing and partner should pass it with any hand that was just trying to escape from 1♦. As little as 5 small ♥ has some play for 4♥.

[P_Marlowe]

3D.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[nekthen]

This is a classic acol 2♦ bid.
The problem arises because of weak 2s.
Do you devalue your 2♣ opening to include this hand?
I think this hand is too weak even for a devalued 2♣, I would bid 3♦ though I have sympathy for 2♠ (not 1♠ as this does not imply a strong hand) but what happens when p raises to 3♠? Either way there is a danger of missing 3NT.
On this hand, if partner has a club stopper he can bid 3♠ to get to 3N without a spade guard. Maybe 3♥ could be a proposal to play 3N without a club stopper, but that is outside the scope of a casual partnership

[mr1303]

Is 1S forcing in your methods? If so, I choose that one.

I'm too scared to bid 3D on these cards.

[Trump Echo]

I'd bid 3 Diamonds reluctantly

[fourdad]

I would open 2♣.
Problem solved.

[kenberg]

mr1303, on 2015-April-05, 05:03, said:

Is 1S forcing in your methods? If so, I choose that one.

I'm too scared to bid 3D on these cards.

I think this was the fourth time that we played together and I can't answer that with confidence. Wank, in an early respnse, said
"1s - nobody ever passes this unless their original response was a joke, and if it was, we might not be able to make anything anyway.".
I in fact chose 2S, but I agree with wank's descriptiont of how forcing 1S is or isn't. With a lousy five count, and say 3=5=2=3 distribution, I can imagine bidding 1H over 1D and passing 1S.
But it was not discussed. We were not playing 2/1, we were not playing BWS, we were "just playing".

On this particular deal partner held 2=5=2=4 and an 8 count so pretty much all roads lead to 4H. But the best choice of a bid after 1D-1h is not clear to me. I am not sure what partner, with his Jx of spades, would have done over 3D. Probably uttered a prayer to the bridge gods and bid 3NT but I dunno.

[zillahandp]

2hts whats the prob harder at imps

[eagles123]

zillahandp, on 2015-April-05, 06:52, said:

2hts whats the prob harder at imps