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4m after puppet stayman

Poll: 4m after puppet stayman (12 member(s) have cast votes)

What is 4C?

  1. Natural (11 votes [91.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.67%

  2. Cue agreeing hearts (1 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  3. Gerber (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

What do you bid with the hand in the OP?

  1. 3S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 4C (11 votes [91.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.67%

  4. 4NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 5NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 6C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Other (1 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2016-January-10, 13:50



I had this hand during a premier league match on Thursday and it led to a misunderstanding and I was just curious as to what standard was.

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Posted 2016-January-10, 13:54

3S agrees hearts so 4C is natural.

It's trickier when opener bids 3s. I believe it's getting more common to play that 4C=spades and slammish and 4H is clubs.
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Posted 2016-January-10, 15:28

Phil gives the standard approach but there are alternatives. One way is to play 3 as a puppet to 3NT and 3NT/4 as transfers. 4 and 3 followed by bidding again handle all of the various slam tries in hearts while still allowing 4 level agreement in the minor. There is so much bidding space after 3 as to give a large degree of freedom in designing a structure.
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Posted 2016-January-10, 15:45

View PostZelandakh, on 2016-January-10, 15:28, said:

There is so much bidding space after 3 as to give a large degree of freedom in designing a structure.

Well yeah, we play 3NT as 5 hearts and even over that there's plenty of room (4 diamonds, 4 hearts, 4 clubs). But you've got to keep in mind that these are all very low frequency auctions. People like Zel who only design their system on paper can make it complicated, people who actually have to remember it should think twice about complicating these spots. ;)
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Posted 2016-January-11, 17:55

Baron will struggle to describe this hand so I'd start with 3 showing a club 2 suiter. Opener puppets to 3NT and then it's a 4 transfer. Opener can signoff in 4, 4NT, 5 or 6A RKCB with 5.
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Posted 2016-January-12, 15:12

Standard has to be = clubs. Anything else is a specific agreement.
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