High-level preempt
#1
Posted 2016-November-06, 03:06
LHO deals and passes, partner opens 1D (could be 3-cds if 44M), and RHO blasts 5C. Was my 6D so crazy with
Axx
Axxx
KX98x
x
I thought partner would have Ks since I have 2 aces and RHO probably the CA as well. Or he would be able to finesse through the red 5-level bidder... But feel free to say how bad bidding it is!
What if RHO bids only 4C as happened on most other tables?
#2
Posted 2016-November-06, 04:54
apollo1201, on 2016-November-06, 03:06, said:
Why would he want to do that? Any such finesses are almost certainly failing. 5♦ and double seem reasonable, but 6♦ seems way too much when you don't really have any sources of tricks opposite what might still be a weak NT. I think I'd bid 5♦, but wouldn't be shocked if it turns out to have little play.
#3
Posted 2016-November-06, 05:35
1.If your partner is 4-4M then your LHO probably is holding 5 carder♦
2.If your partner is having ♦suit still he requires atleast AJ♦+ a)♠K,♥K,assorted Qs &Js or b) two suiter hand as trick source.Former will be coming under NT category which he has not bid & latter is pure speculation on your part.
Double or 5♦ are the calls.
#4
Posted 2016-November-06, 16:11
6D is quite an overbid.
#5
Posted 2016-November-07, 01:17
#6
Posted 2016-November-07, 03:00
Through the two aces , King-Ten support, and singleton may increase control value of your hand (+2+2+1+1)*3 - 11 =7 >0 which bring the evaluation value closer to 33 but bidding slam is 50-50 for me. On the downside pard's hand may have the shape exactly to this.
I bid 5♦.
#7
Posted 2016-November-07, 03:37
#8
Posted 2016-November-07, 05:44
nekthen, on 2016-November-07, 03:37, said:
Partner is never going to bid on when you have five-card support and have made a defence-suggesting call at the 5 level. Double might be right, but don't kid yourself that it's a two-way shot.
#9
Posted 2016-November-07, 06:25
#10
Posted 2016-November-07, 06:48
#11
Posted 2016-November-07, 07:37
Jinksy, on 2016-November-07, 05:44, said:
What is a sane hand for RHO? Presumably AKQxxxxxx or maybe KQJxxxxxx or AKQxxxxx and hoping for 1 trick from p. What has my p got?
1. A 12 -14 4432 hand
2. A 18-19 4432 hand
3. A natural ♦ hand
Hand 1 obviously passes
Hand 2 also passes unless he has clubs stopped twice and even then taking 800 may be the way to go
So we should only consider going on with a diamond suit again most hands have to pass, but maybe some big 4450 or 5161 hands would bid on.
Worst case for double is we miss game and only take 500. Best case we take 200 or 500 and cant make 5♦. Or we have 800. If we have a slam I'm hoping my partner will say something.
So yes I expect partner to pass my double 90+% of the time, but the door is ajar for partner.
#12
Posted 2016-November-07, 09:46
apollo1201, on 2016-November-06, 03:06, said:
LHO deals and passes, partner opens 1D (could be 3-cds if 44M), and RHO blasts 5C. Was my 6D so crazy with
Axx
Axxx
KX98x
x
I thought partner would have Ks since I have 2 aces and RHO probably the CA as well. Or he would be able to finesse through the red 5-level bidder... But feel free to say how bad bidding it is!
What if RHO bids only 4C as happened on most other tables?
Yes, 6D is an overbid, as other posters have noted. You surely have a club loser; do you really think partner can cover everything else? Seems unlikely. I would bid 5D, but only because I would expect few tables to get a 5C overcall unless RHO is has 10 tricks in his hand. If RHO bids 4C, I'm bidding (either 5D or X is OK), and we're going to get to game (probably 5D), so I might as well bid over 5C. But if you want to X 5C, that's OK, too.
Over 4C, you can either bid 5D (which shows a good hand) or X. I think I'd X and correct 4S to 5D.
Cheers,
Mike