Supermax
#1
Posted 2017-May-05, 11:36
Aktx
Tx
Akx
You open 1c, p bids 1s, you bid 2s, p splinters with 4h, next?
A) sign off
B) cue
C) blackers
D) would have opened 1nt
E) would have raised to 3s
#2
Posted 2017-May-05, 12:50
#3
Posted 2017-May-05, 13:05
wank, on 2017-May-05, 11:36, said:
Aktx
Tx
Akx
You open 1c, p bids 1s, you bid 2s, p splinters with 4h, next?
A) sign off
B) cue
C) blackers
D) would have opened 1nt
E) would have raised to 3s
I rank
- 5♣ = CUE. ♥AK are worth something.
- 4♠ = NAT. S/O. A bit pessimistic.
I wouldn't
- Open a strong notrump.
- Raise 1♠ to 3♠.
- Launch into RKC over the splinter
#5
Posted 2017-May-05, 13:44
ahydra
#7
Posted 2017-May-05, 13:46
#8
Posted 2017-May-05, 13:56
#9
Posted 2017-May-05, 14:10
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#10
Posted 2017-May-05, 14:27
5 ♣
Partner could have just bid 4 ♠ with any hand with shortage where just game is the probable contract. IMHO, a splinter here has to show extras and slam interest.
♥ AK probably aren't worth as much when partner has shown a shortage in ♥, but I agree with ahydra that they might provide a valuable discard.
#12
Posted 2017-May-05, 15:34
AKJxx
x
QJxx
QJx
or
AKxxx
x
AQx
xxxx
then you are in danger at 5 level. But if he has something like
AKxxxx
x
KQx
xxx
then slam looks almost cold.
Having said that, I would never splinter with the first 2 hands. The reason is simple. Give pd 4 small hearts(or 3), with his initial 2♠ bid it is still too hard to construct hands that makes slam without at least a finesse. A void instead of singleton of course changes a lot of things. Also if pd has too many wasted ♠ hcps such as AKQxx(x) or if he has a certain spade loser (KQJxxx x Axx QJx) can make it almost an impossible slam to make.
Splinters are the most inaccurate convention unless you have firm agreements with your pd about which hands to reject and if you are going to take an action, what all the subsequent bids mean.
Overall I would bid 4♠. I have 14 hcp and % 50 of my values are in the splinter suit. I also do not have a safe 4 level cues available on this auction.
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#13
Posted 2017-May-05, 16:42
#14
Posted 2017-May-05, 18:16
5c
You need to make a positive noise and by far the best way to proceed seems to be 5c. P will undoubtedly cue 5d and now you can safely bid 5h so p now has a pretty darn accurate idea of what your hand looks like (though sometimes the heart K will be a pleasant surprise). Hopefully your partnership radically discounts jacks not in long (4+) suits) in slam auctions so any bidding made by partner after 5h should be pretty darn accurate (unless they are convinced you have long clubs (ouch).
#16
Posted 2017-May-06, 07:35
Opening 1NT limits your hand immediately and makes your partner the captain. Responder will proceed via Stayman, transfer or splinter depending as usual on the cc.
It's worth saying once again: The main reason for the splinter is to allow the partner of the shortness shower to evaluate duplication of value. Your king of hearts needed to be the king of something else to make this hand work well for partner.
You cooperate in this effort by giving partner one discouraging call after the splinter. There is no such thing as "sign off" since you are not the captain.
I have a BBO constraint file that will allow you and partner to wile away the hours practicing just this sort of situation. See Shortness Showing.
#17
Posted 2017-May-06, 07:36
#18
Posted 2017-May-06, 08:28
2. B) Cue 5♣
That all said, I'd bid 2♠, like OP, and not made a 3♠ raise.
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#19
Posted 2017-May-06, 08:59
nige1, on 2017-May-05, 13:05, said:
- 5♣ = CUE. ♥AK are worth something.
- 4♠ = NAT. S/O. A bit pessimistic.
I wouldn't
- Open a strong notrump.
- Raise 1♠ to 3♠.
- Launch into RKC over the splinter
I tend to agree. My first choice is 5♣, as a standard cue bid.
I have a tendency to use Blackwood as a way of KEEPING OUT of slam, not to get TO slam.
#20
Posted 2017-May-06, 08:59
I rank
- 5♣ = CUE. ♥AK are worth something.
- 4♠ = NAT. S/O. A bit pessimistic.
I wouldn't
[list][*]Open a strong notrump.[*]Raise 1♠ to 3