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#21 User is offline   kanchi 

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Posted 2018-October-02, 02:20

I विल क्ष एंड पास इफ़ स इन्साइड बाई प अधर्वायज़ I विल टके आउट तो क
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Posted 2018-October-02, 07:39

View Postkanchi, on 2018-October-02, 02:20, said:

I विल क्ष एंड पास इफ़ स इन्साइड बाई प अधर्वायज़ I विल टके आउट तो क


Any Indian players who can translate this into English better than Google Translate welcome :)
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Posted 2018-October-03, 01:50

View Posthelene_t, on 2018-September-30, 14:48, said:

2NT for me. In terms of strength this hand is borderline between a discouraging 3/3 and an encouraging 2/2NT. I don't think partner has promised five diamonds and I don't want to bid this poor club suit at the 3-level, so I round up rather than down in order to to bid the most convenient strain.


Why would 3 be discouraging?
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Posted 2018-October-03, 02:14

For me it's an obvious pass.

Partner promises 4+ and a limited hand (~11-15); if stronger he would jump to 3(nonforcing!) on a shapely intermediate hand or otherwise redouble. With a limited semibalanced hand he should pass, but if he is interested in competing over 2/3 he must bid while he has the chance.

BTW: Some posters tried to show values with a 2 bid which IMHO would need explicit agreement.
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Posted 2018-October-03, 05:59

View Postdokoko, on 2018-October-03, 02:14, said:

BTW: Some posters tried to show values with a 2 bid which IMHO would need explicit agreement.


Why do you think this needs explicit agreement?
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2 must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.
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Posted 2018-October-03, 09:48

View Postpescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:

It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2 must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds . . . .


In my corner of the globe, 2 would show a good raise. In other words . . . not natural.
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Posted 2018-October-03, 10:03

Mark me down for pass

With luck partner can score a Heart ruff or two
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Posted 2018-October-03, 12:47

The hand is more valuable on defense than offense - pass and hope to go plus somehow.
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Posted 2018-October-03, 14:15

View Postpescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:

Why do you think this needs explicit agreement?
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2 must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.


I would take it for a good diamond raise except with a very weak partner.
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Posted 2018-October-03, 21:15

View Postpescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:

Why do you think this needs explicit agreement?
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2 must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.

You are seriously mistaken. Using 2S to show a very good raise in diamonds is so common, amongst good players that I would assume that my partner would play it that way, were I playing with an unknown expert. Btw, I have seen it used in a more restrictive fashion, as being a very good diamond raise but with Hx in hearts, the idea being to allow opener, with 5 decent hearts, to try for the 10 trick game, but this is so low frequency that I don’t know anyone who plays it that way today.
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Posted 2018-October-13, 08:33

View Postmasse24, on 2018-October-03, 09:48, said:

In my corner of the globe, 2 would show a good raise. In other words . . . not natural.

An interesting expression. How many corners does your globe have?
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