2/1 Guidance. Best Bid
#21
Posted 2018-October-02, 02:20
#23
Posted 2018-October-03, 01:50
helene_t, on 2018-September-30, 14:48, said:
Why would 3♦ be discouraging?
#24
Posted 2018-October-03, 02:14
Partner promises 4+♦ and a limited hand (~11-15); if stronger he would jump to 3♦(nonforcing!) on a shapely intermediate hand or otherwise redouble. With a limited semibalanced hand he should pass, but if he is interested in competing over 2♠/3♣ he must bid while he has the chance.
BTW: Some posters tried to show values with a 2♠ bid which IMHO would need explicit agreement.
#25
Posted 2018-October-03, 05:59
dokoko, on 2018-October-03, 02:14, said:
Why do you think this needs explicit agreement?
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2♠ must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.
#26
Posted 2018-October-03, 09:48
pescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2♠ must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds . . . .
In my corner of the globe, 2♠ would show a good ♦ raise. In other words . . . not natural.
#27
Posted 2018-October-03, 10:03
With luck partner can score a Heart ruff or two
#28
Posted 2018-October-03, 12:47
#29
Posted 2018-October-03, 14:15
pescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2♠ must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.
I would take it for a good diamond raise except with a very weak partner.
#30
Posted 2018-October-03, 21:15
pescetom, on 2018-October-03, 05:59, said:
It looks perfectly natural to me.
1NT already denied both 3-card hearts and 4-card spades, so 2♠ must show good 3-card spades and deny 4-card diamonds, thus also showing weak 5+card clubs.
You are seriously mistaken. Using 2S to show a very good raise in diamonds is so common, amongst good players that I would assume that my partner would play it that way, were I playing with an unknown expert. Btw, I have seen it used in a more restrictive fashion, as being a very good diamond raise but with Hx in hearts, the idea being to allow opener, with 5 decent hearts, to try for the 10 trick game, but this is so low frequency that I dont know anyone who plays it that way today.