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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2024-December-10, 20:06


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Posted 2024-December-10, 21:00

Is the double some form of snapdragon - showing 5♦ and 2♥?

I would probably bid 5♦. Why not :)
S possibly has K♠. N may have K♦ and ♣ honors - in which case we may make 6, but on a bad break even 5 doesnt make. I like my chances with 5 though.
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Posted 2024-December-10, 21:10

X is undiscussed. values?
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Posted 2024-December-10, 21:11

View PostRanmit, on 2024-December-10, 21:00, said:

Is the double some form of snapdragon - showing 5♦ and 2♥?

Wouldn't this hand overcall 1♦?

Seems more likely to me - especially knowing the quality of jillybean's opponents - that North overstretched and East has values with clubs.
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Posted 2024-December-10, 21:34

I agree with Stephen. At the risk of incurring my partner's wrath, I would pass. There's only one unbid suit; if he had diamonds, he should have overcalled. The fact that we're short in clubs also supports that theory. I like our chances.
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Posted 2024-December-11, 00:45

Classic penalty double. It can’t logically be anything else, and it doesn’t mean that north has necessarily lost his mind, although I think the smart money leans that way. These days even some club level players know it’s unwise to pass 1C with something like K10xxx xxx Qxxx x, so opener has innocently bid 3C on xx x AJxx AQJxxx (a stretch imo but hardly lunatic) and my partner has K109xx in clubs.

The game is far more complicated than it used to be so it’s tempting to think that every situation carries special meaning but sometimes…often…a cigar is just a cigar….and a penalty double is just a penalty double.
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Posted 2024-December-11, 02:41

Agree with Mike.

Even if we play sound overcalls so that p could have diamonds with heart tolerance, they could just bid 3d now
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Posted 2024-December-11, 03:03

I have the option to bid 1N over 1♣-P-1♠ showing 4♦5♥.
East's X likely shows a ♣ holding given a failure to bid over 1♣ so penalty for me.
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Posted 2024-December-11, 07:24



Trust your partner.
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Posted 2024-December-11, 07:40

View Postjillybean, on 2024-December-11, 07:24, said:



Trust your partner.

and bid 3N
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