[thepossum]

Simple obvious descriptive bidding gets the right contract with those hands most of the time. I see a lot of supposed experts overthinking and confusing people unnecessarily

I think I blame it on pairs

I thought that was what you said earlier. 1 club etc. bid your hand you said Mike. I agrred with you or was relieved I had picked your approach

1 club then etc

I was using dealer with a wide range of possible hands - and a wonderful range of possible contracts from minor major games, part scores, occasional slams, and often a NT game or part score too
Flip the majors and same with heart games and part scores.
Simple

I did not check which were the best contract though and how they score in the rough and tumble of duplicate
Do I need to list out the very simple and obvious bidding sequences in 2/1 with a wide range of hands

1C-3C pass
1C-1H-1S etc
1C-2C etc
1C-1NT etc
1C-2NT etc

oops
1C-1S-3S-4S etc

Lots of other equally simple options - sometimes part scores, sometimes games, sometimes even a slam

[jillybean]

Obviously a lot of that was directed at me. A long time poster, still using keycard to explore for slams

You mention players wanting to get better but never unlearning bad habits, or seemingly wanting to.
There are many other extenuating factors; such as partnerships, exposure to expert play, time.


Unfortunately, it seems that most club bridge is poor. This week I observed my ops bidding 1S 4C* Etc to 6S-2 The 4C bidder then explained to his “ newbie opponents” how it was the correction auction and it was the bad break that caused them to go down.
I simply kept quiet. Thankfully, due to the expert advice given here, I know that this guy is talking from his other orifice. This is where players are learning the game.

Partnerships, time. It’s hard to find a good partner, and without the time to commit to a partnership, you are left floundering with various, inexperienced partners where the only way to go forward after 1M 2M is gerber. The option is bad bridge or no bridge.

You’ve spoken before of the good old days when a group of experts and hangeroners would head to the local pizza restaurant after the game, drink beer, eat pizza and discuss hands.
I wish this was still something that happened now.

I could go on but I’ll end my rant here

[Cyberyeti]

steve2005, on 2025-January-29, 17:24, said:

K&R gives hand 17.65 rating
My first glance without counting, it looked too good as the long black suits have prime cards

I stayed out of this discussion because I play a system that handles this type of hand better, but my perception was that this was too good for 1N.

[thepossum]

I'm just ignoring the tedious predictable Mike obnoxiousness

I actually agreed with him but he still can't help himself

Maybe he needs a better psych or is a just a lost cause to the human race
Some people are beyond help despite years trying to help him

Seriously to be so insecure and vindictive and run a vendetta for who knows how many years now

I have come across people who think they are experts and hate other people who know what they are talking about and have the confidence to say it. But personal attacks on that scale from day one over so many years now is pathetic
He never has the basic guts to acknowledge I offer very similar advice and bidding to him. He must hate that

Spent my life working with world experts. The things most share are calm confidence and humility and the ability to make others feel good and not be a bully and humiliate

Another bit of meta advice. Who knows what I am an expert I if anything after all these years. Confusing complexity with level of ability is a serious mistake

Most things genuinely have a few basic principles and once you grasp them all you need is a few simple methods combined with judgement

Never moved beyond rubber bridge myself. Why care about which game you bid

[mikeh]

jillybean, on 2025-February-01, 10:04, said:

Obviously a lot of that was directed at me. A long time poster, still using keycard to explore for slams

You mention players wanting to get better but never unlearning bad habits, or seemingly wanting to.
There are many other extenuating factors; such as partnerships, exposure to expert play, time.


Unfortunately, it seems that most club bridge is poor. This week I observed my ops bidding 1S 4C* Etc to 6S-2 The 4C bidder then explained to his “ newbie opponents” how it was the correction auction and it was the bad break that caused them to go down.
I simply kept quiet. Thankfully, due to the expert advice given here, I know that this guy is talking from his other orifice. This is where players are learning the game.

Partnerships, time. It’s hard to find a good partner, and without the time to commit to a partnership, you are left floundering with various, inexperienced partners where the only way to go forward after 1M 2M is gerber. The option is bad bridge or no bridge.

You’ve spoken before of the good old days when a group of experts and hangeroners would head to the local pizza restaurant after the game, drink beer, eat pizza and discuss hands.
I wish this was still something that happened now.

I could go on but I’ll end my rant here

I was t aiming at any one individual. Literally, I had nobody specific in mind at any time. I was making perhaps unkind or I’ll advised comments about habits I’ve noticed from an extremely large number of players over many, many years. Some players here exhibit some of them. I exhibit some of them from time to time…stubbornly clinging to inferior methods is definitely something I’ve done on occasion, is one. I apologize to anyone who felt singled out.

If yiu recognize yourself in any part of my rants/expositions try to take it as intended….to consider where my post was valid and whether you should consider changing. I stress…’consider’. There are good players who disagree with me, and I’m not claiming any ‘authority’ that somehow makes my views infallible