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How do you start, how do you proceed? not so much fun

#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted Yesterday, 14:46



2/1
no bergen
nebulous 2
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted Yesterday, 14:51

2, intending to bid spades next round. If we're lucky I get to bid it at the 2-level, which is always nice.

As a side note, I think it is standard to also bid that way with a strong 3=4=4=2 type hand, as well as a host of other balanced hands with 3 spades. This sequence therefore does not promise club length.
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Posted Yesterday, 16:23

Nebulous 2C it is
Welcome to the modern world


Now opener can even rebid a nebulous 2S

Or at some point bid a nebulous 3NT
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Posted Yesterday, 16:39



off to the right start, it wouldn't be a post if North had left us room
3 will be 6
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Posted Yesterday, 18:15

 jillybean, on 2026-June-28, 16:39, said:



off to the right start, it wouldn't be a post if North had left us room
3 will be 6



I am not fooling around and confusing my partners with splinters or control bids now.

Just hope they don't take it as quantitative 🙈


4NT
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Posted Yesterday, 22:52

4, a good spade raise.
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Posted Today, 00:14

View PostDavidKok, on 2026-June-28, 22:52, said:

4, a good spade raise.


That was my first choice as well. I’m assuming that you are not intending to pass a 4S call.

Btw, a comment at large…even if one’s plan is to keycard over 4S (rather than 5C)…..it’s worth bidding 4H because, once in a while, partner will bid something else which may lead to finding a good grand.

So the options seems to be 4N or 5C….hoping for 5D then 5H
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Posted Today, 04:08

How do those contributing here play Opener's Pass and Double calls over 3?
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Posted Today, 04:18

Pass: catchall, nothing to say. Can be strong and waiting, or even a trap pass.
Double: takeout, short hearts and the hand isn't extreme enough to unilaterally bid.

Initially I was taught "pass = waiting, double = penalty, shortage = bid something" but I find this wasteful. It requires taking action too often, the penalty double is very rare, and it creates ambiguous situations.
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Posted Today, 07:49



4H would have been better but I still think we are destined for 6
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Posted Today, 08:56

 DavidKok, on 2026-June-29, 04:18, said:

Pass: catchall, nothing to say. Can be strong and waiting, or even a trap pass.
Double: takeout, short hearts and the hand isn't extreme enough to unilaterally bid.

Initially I was taught "pass = waiting, double = penalty, shortage = bid something" but I find this wasteful. It requires taking action too often, the penalty double is very rare, and it creates ambiguous situations.

Thanks. I was taught the same and made the same migration.

In a situation like this I stretch to bid Pass with a wide range of hands, to give Responder the chance to bid 3 keeping the auction low and soundly on the rails.

I was wondering if anyone plays Pass/X more specifically about the major suit here, say:
Pass = need 3 card support
X = only need 2 card support
3 = imposes trumps, requests control bid.
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