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#1 User is offline   catch22 

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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:27

Scoring: IMP

(2D*)-?

* Multi - Only weak


What would you bid?
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:45

2. I have just enough playing strength. I will pull future penalty doubles.

If you pass and bid 3 after (2) - pass - (2) I suppose thats OK too, but if LHO has 3-3 or better in the majors you might have to bid 4.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:45

pclayton, on Aug 18 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

If you pass and bid 3 after (2) - pass - (2) I suppose thats OK too.

Better than ok, it's best-bidder approved!
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Posted 2008-August-18, 14:39

I like passing and then coming in. This hand has no defensive strength at all, and bidding directly conveys the wrong message. The good news is LHO probably can't raise big immediately unless he also has long hearts (unlikely).
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Posted 2008-August-18, 15:16

4.

Of course this requires you to have the agreemnet that 4 doesn't show many HCP.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 15:30

Pass and 3 seems pretty normal, if you still have space left
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Posted 2008-August-22, 02:40

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This was wild -

The bidding at our table went
(2D*)-P-(P)-2S
(P)-4H-(P)-4NT
(P)-P-(P)

We've now agreed that 4 is natural :lol:

This went one off after east led the K and partner mis-guessed the end position
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Posted 2008-August-22, 09:30

catch22, on Aug 22 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

partner mis-guessed the end position

That's an unnecessarily kind way of putting it.

This is quite interesting as a play-or-defend problem. Should 4NT always make on a spade lead?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-August-22, 09:57

gnasher, on Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM, said:

catch22, on Aug 22 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

partner mis-guessed the end position

That's an unnecessarily kind way of putting it.

This is quite interesting as a play-or-defend problem. Should 4NT always make on a spade lead?

It is!
I think it should make.
With 5 tricks remaining, west has AKx Kx.
East must keep 3 diamonds to avoid an endplay against west, JT to guard the clubs, and a spade. Impossible!
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Posted 2008-August-22, 09:57

MFA, on Aug 22 2008, 10:57 AM, said:

gnasher, on Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM, said:

catch22, on Aug 22 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

partner mis-guessed the end position

That's an unnecessarily kind way of putting it.

This is quite interesting as a play-or-defend problem. Should 4NT always make on a spade lead?

It is!
I think it should make.
With 5 tricks remaining, west has AKx Kx.
East must keep 3 diamonds to avoid an endplay against west, JT to guard the clubs, and a spade. Impossible!

Why can't east pitch to Jx of diamonds?
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Posted 2008-August-22, 09:59

jdonn, on Aug 22 2008, 10:57 AM, said:

MFA, on Aug 22 2008, 10:57 AM, said:

gnasher, on Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM, said:

catch22, on Aug 22 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

partner mis-guessed the end position

That's an unnecessarily kind way of putting it.

This is quite interesting as a play-or-defend problem. Should 4NT always make on a spade lead?

It is!
I think it should make.
With 5 tricks remaining, west has AKx Kx.
East must keep 3 diamonds to avoid an endplay against west, JT to guard the clubs, and a spade. Impossible!

Why can't east pitch to Jx of diamonds?

Diamond towards the queen endplays west to lead from the K.
Michael Askgaard
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Posted 2008-August-22, 10:00

Oh yeah, duh. For some reason....never mind. Time to kick my own ass and stop posting for a few hours.
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