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Worst bid ... at the table...

Poll: What's the bid you like less? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

What's the bid you like less?

  1. W 1 [HE] (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. W 2 [SP] (6 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  3. W final pass (2 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  4. E initial pass (4 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  5. E 3 [HE] (9 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  6. E DBL (9 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

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#1 User is offline   ardf10987 

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Posted 2008-November-10, 12:08

I saw this hand. All red, West dealer:
W..... N..... E..... S.....
1... pas. pas... 1
2... pas. 3..... 3
pas. pas. DBL... pas
pas. pas.
This was the layout:
Scoring: IMP


Result was 3 X and made.

West thought to have show a limited hand (opening 1), one suited (2), without too much defence (pass on 3).

Est thought to have show a minimum hand, fit, and some values (dbl).

Someone think best bid, not made at the table, was 3 over 1.
Someone think 2, bid made at the table, is two suiter or three suiter... Someone doesn't think...

How would you have bid?
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Posted 2008-November-10, 12:14

I would focus all of the blame on east. First of all 3 is a huge underbid if you think of what partner is showing. It should be an easy 4 bid. And what in the world made him double?? He just blew his chance to make the 4 bid he should have made a round earlier. And don't even get me started on east passing the opening bid...

Some other decisions such as 1 and 2 were not so clearcut, but certainly not awful.
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Posted 2008-November-10, 12:37

#01 3H certainly does not show the fit. Why should it?
#02 I dont like 2S, what speaks against 3H?
Make life easy for your partner, tell partner that
you have a good hand (well, ... 2S did this) and
that you have a suit, you can play without help
(2S did not tell this).
#03 I prefer 2S instead of 1S, but playing in a pick up
partnership (?!), there is nothing wrong with 1S.

Which is the worst bid?
I vote for 2S, I hate cue bids, if you have a clear alternative,
so I am certainly biased.

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PS: #03 corrected
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Posted 2008-November-10, 14:36

Don't pass with a fit and an ace!
After the first pass, East should realize he has a HUGE hand in context. 2 says opener still has game interest despite East's pass, and his hand absolutely could not be better. 3 is the worst bid of the auction by far.

East should realize that the bidding lesson one "We pass with less than 6 hcp because we can't have game" is only an approximation, game is very much possible if parnter has a distributional hand.
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Posted 2008-November-10, 17:41

1<3<<dbl

And the winner is East.
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Posted 2008-November-10, 20:53

i would not sit down opposite this east at a bridge table, if given a choice.

1) doesn't support partner
2) when he finally does, does so with a craptastic 3
3) doubles 3s with a fit and bad trump under the bidder
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Posted 2008-November-10, 20:56

hotShot, on Nov 10 2008, 06:41 PM, said:

1<3<<dbl

And the winner is East.

are your signs reversed?
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Posted 2008-November-10, 21:10

I like to play that 3H is preemptive style and that 2S show that game is still in reach.

Over 2S

2Nt half a stop.
3C K/QQ
3D K
3H nothing.
3S splinter at least 3H.
3NT stopper.
4C A
4D A
A fairly rare sequence.
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Posted 2008-November-11, 09:45

How do you pick more than one option?
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Posted 2008-November-11, 09:48

I don't think you can take more then one option, voting.

But you can list them writing...

Added P.S.
I asked some strong player the meaning of 2. Pls note it was only one opinion (I don't know too much strong players, apparently...). :(
He confirmed me it shows (in his system, anyway) a strong one-suiter... I now fear asking someone else... :rolleyes:
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