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1) What is partner doing? 2) What is partner's hand?

#41 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2009-August-25, 14:39

I'd prefer splinter in hearts followed bud 5, should picture the same avoiding the risk of partner tihnking you don't ahve 4 spades.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 16:06

What is partner doing?
A) Losing his mind
B) The impossible
C) All of the above

Answer: C

what is partner looking for?
A) A miracle
B) A new partner
C) Where the rest of the cards in the bidding box fell when he knocked it over.

Answer: B


Any idea what Partner hand is?

A) Yes, but see above
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Posted 2009-August-25, 18:04

Fluffy, on Aug 25 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

I'd prefer splinter in hearts followed bud 5, should picture the same avoiding the risk of partner tihnking you don't ahve 4 spades.

I like the splinter idea.... and you can splinter in either red suit at the THREE level--
a jump-reverse splinter:

1C - 1S
3H! - 3S
4D - 4S
5D - ??

Now you've shown shortness in Hts and two Diam Ctrl cues....
with Spades as trump....
... and a big hand....
...and partner has to be wondering why you didn't go RKC ( 4NT ).

Maybe this will induce partner to bid 6S with the A or K of Cl .

- - Don - -
Edit : 4D Ctrl cue also denies Cl A or K.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 15:40

Double !, on Aug 25 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Before you laugh and tell me that I'm insane, i would like to state the following:
I AM:  Csaba said so!

The given bidding is how I bid the opener's hand in my previous post.  I held:
  AKJ3,     A,       A,     QJ76542.  Once i chose to open the hand 1C  (my f2f partner suggested 2C)  and my partner responded 1S,  I wanted to 1st of all get some idea of how many spades he had.  Therefore, I created an artificial reverse of 2 D, knowing that he couldn't pass.  After he rebid 2S, showing 5+ spades, i now wanted to create a way to find out how many club losers we had without getting past the 5-level.  It was fortunate that this particular partner played my 3S bid as forcing.  His 3NT rebid (I believe) was intended to show a balanced hand with something in hearts and to mark time as spades were pretty much agreed on as being the trump suit.  My 4D bid (rebidding a stiff ace) was intended to give partner a chance to describe his hand further.  His 4S bid essentially said that, opposite theoretically 3-card trump support, he didn't feel that he could go past 4S.
And that's OK because I had a game plan.   But when I clearly asked for some sort of club control by bidding 5H, he obliged by bidding 6S. 

Some have said that he should have shown the ace of clubs after I had supported spades.  Some might also suggest that he might have bid 6C to show the ace.  Well, he and I don't always agree on certain things.

So, we managed to get to 6S, making 7 with the club king onside, without any really conventional bids. 

The fun part for me was being able to bid a stiff ace twice in the auction  (partner couldn't alert that- he didn't know) and to bid a second stiff ace one time.   To be honest, I couldn't think of another way to do it other than using 4th suit GF on my 3rd bid, but I was concerned that I might lose a valuable level of bidding by doing so.

Disclaimer:  I was rather tired when this hand occurred.  All insanities are hereby attributed to fatigue.

DHL

We may share the insanity.

I posited in the first response in this thread a hand which was not too far off from the one you held. I had the black suits pretty much spot on, but even I could not envision A A in the red suits.

With your hand, 7 is odds on if responder has long spades and the singleton A, and is probably and excellent contract opposite QTxx of spades and the singleton A . Perhaps it can be reached if you open 2.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 17:35

Fluffy, on Aug 25 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

I'd prefer splinter in hearts followed bud 5, should picture the same avoiding the risk of partner tihnking you don't ahve 4 spades.

Risk? You avoid the certainty that partner KNOWS you dont' have 4 spades :(
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Posted 2009-August-26, 17:38

right :(

And knowing I have 4 he might bid 6/5NT (GSF?) over 5 diamonds to try 7.
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