[Valardent]

2♦ is GF

Imps

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What next?

Is it obvious to you?

Val

[dake50]

Clear 6C.
Of course, my partner doesn't 5C>4H with 2+H-losers. That's a Double.
5C must be very distributional. I have DA+CQ. They are magic.
Partner knows I'm not slamming without SA+.

[l milne]

5♠. Not natural.

[Ant590]

I like 5NT. Let partner make the last decision on this one =D

[Valardent]

I passed.

This was my thinking : we are off a♥trick (most probably), minors don't rate to be 3-2 or 3-3 as opp's bidding suggests.

Pretty chicken thoughts, don't you think?

I was right in a way bcs each opp had a single in a minor :

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[Fluffy]

Raising is the % action, but not as clear as others say, I expect slam to go down 20-30% of the time. Making a grand try with a minimum hand with a wasted ♠K and 8 trump fit is very bad.

[mfa1010]

I would probably pass 5♣. Depends on my partner's style, but they all tend to be quite aggressive in getting their suits in. Which is certainly also my style.

Partner doesn't deserve to get 7-6 hands when he bids like that. 5♣ is way-way too pessimistic. He must have missed the inference that we are marked with decent minor suit fit on this auction, since we almost never have 6+♠ and pass 2♥. He should clearly play us for a minor suit key card and sufficient lengths for slam and jump to slam himself.

Edit: Ok, 2/1 gameforce, missed that. I raise to 6♣ then. But I still think that partner has a normal 6♣ gamble.

[rhm]

Fluffy, on 2010-December-28, 04:46, said:

Raising is the % action, but not as clear as others say, I expect slam to go down 20-30% of the time. Making a grand try with a minimum hand with a wasted ♠K and 8 trump fit is very bad.

Raising is 100% clear. Wish all my slams had at least a 70-80% chance of making.
Agree though not to try for a grand.

Rainer Herrmann

[Fluffy]

mfa1010, on 2010-December-28, 05:02, said:

He must have missed the inference that we are marked with decent minor suit fit on this auction, since we almost never have 6+♠ and pass 2♥. He should clearly play us for a minor suit key card and sufficient lengths for slam and jump to slam himself.

Very good point, and since opponents side fit is spades it is highly unlikelly they went to the 4 level based on anything but lots of hearts, so even 6 minor cards is reasonable.

[Valardent]

Thank you for comforting me Michael, my partner is (indeed) part of the agressive category (which must have influenced me to pass, altough I think 6♣ is more the percentage action).

Any gift you would want for newyear ?

[rhm]

mfa1010, on 2010-December-28, 05:02, said:

I would probably pass 5♣. Depends on my partner's style, but they all tend to be quite aggressive in getting their suits in. Which is certainly also my style.

Partner doesn't deserve to get 7-6 hands when he bids like that. 5♣ is way-way too pessimistic. He must have missed the inference that we are marked with decent minor suit fit on this auction, since we almost never have 6+♠ and pass 2♥. He should clearly play us for a minor suit key card and sufficient lengths for slam and jump to slam himself.

Edit: Ok, 2/1 gameforce, missed that. I raise to 6♣ then. But I still think that partner has a normal 6♣ gamble.

I think 5♣ is clever, since from North's point of view 6♥ doubled might be cheaper than 5♣ passed out or doubled. (It is!)
Top priority must be to avoid a ♥ sacrifice.

Rainer Herrmann

[pooltuna]

I would call 6♣ as partner could have 2155 rather than 2065. IMO the call is pretty clear based on the auction. I expect partner to have at a minimum 12-13 HCP in the minors to justify his bidding at these colors.

[mfa1010]

rhm, on 2010-December-28, 05:15, said:

I think 5♣ is clever, since from North's point of view 6♥ doubled might be cheaper than 5♣ passed out or doubled. (It is!)
Top priority must be to avoid a ♥ sacrifice.

Two opponents that both have passed initially would rarely continue to the 6-level, but it could happen. If north was thinking along those lines then he does deserve some credit.

[whereagles]

Light up a candle and bid 6. The 76 is a welcoming sight ahah.

[dake50]

" I think 5♣ is clever, since from North's point of view 6♥ doubled might be cheaper than 5♣ passed out or doubled. (It is!) Top priority must be to avoid a ♥ sacrifice." -- Rainer Herrmann

Your point applies to 7H sac.
After 6H sac is cheap, 7C/7D has more to gain comparatively.
Should be bid.

[han]

Here is a similar hand I held recently:

xx xxx AKQxx AJx at MPs. For some reason you decide to open 1D, not 1NT.

1D - 2H - 2S - 4H
p - p - 4SA - p
??

If you were sure that 4SA asked you to pick between the minors, what would you bid?

[Valardent]

han, on 2010-December-29, 05:23, said:

Here is a similar hand I held recently:

xx xxx AKQxx AJx at MPs. For some reason you decide to open 1D, not 1NT.

1D - 2H - 2S - 4H
p - p - 4SA - p
??

If you were sure that 4SA asked you to pick between the minors, what would you bid?

That would mean p's hand is 5035 or maybe 6034.

Technically I think 5♥ is best (bluhmer on the 5 level )

Practically 6♦ has the merit of keeping it simple