[gnasher]

mikeh, on 2011-November-10, 12:34, said:

Thus, on 1N 3N, I lead the A from AKxx and AKx.

Dummy has 10xx.

Partner shows me an even number. Well, if he has 2, I need to switch now! If he has 4, I need, probably, to continue (certainly if I held AKxx, and probably with AKx), and I have no way of telling.

If he shows an odd number, and I hold AKx, I can't tell if he has 3 (switch) or 5(continue). If I hold AKxx, then opposite an odd number, I can lead low, hoping to be to the Q, gaining on Qxx and breaking even other times.

I don't see how it will help you to be playing attitude. If you lead from AKxx and partner discourages, you won't know if that's xx (switch), xxx (continue low) or Jxxx (continue high). If you lead from AKx and partner encourages, you won't know if that's Qxx (switch), Qxxx (continue) or xxxxx (continue high).

At least Han's suggestion does work when you can distinguish a two-card difference. Like Han, I don't actually play this, and I think it would need some discussion about when to apply it, but it does seem better.

[mikeh]

gnasher, on 2011-November-10, 13:03, said:

At least Han's suggestion does work when you can distinguish a two-card difference. Like Han, I don't actually play this, and I think it would need some discussion about when to apply it, but it does seem better.

I already agreed with this In fact, while I will think about it more, I am considering suggesting to partners that this makes sense....when we know that declarer can't hold 4 or 5, we give count....when we can't tell, we give attitude, flawed tho attitude is.

[gwnn]

I'm trying to remember what exactly Frances said about these situations (Ace lead from AKxx or AKJT or AKJx or AKx etc), but her main point was that there's no possible signalling method that do not result in some silly cases (such as declarer winning a trick with Qx, etc). I hope she will correct me if I remember incorrectly.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

WellSpyder, on 2011-November-09, 11:04, said:

Did you notice Fluffy specified a no trump contract?

Admittedly, I didn't.
I didn't see the word "notrump" .

I guess I just saw the word "trump" and glossed over the other word "no" preceding it.
So my reply makes no sense.

[xcurt]

gnasher, on 2011-November-10, 13:03, said:

I don't see how it will help you to be playing attitude. If you lead from AKxx and partner discourages, you won't know if that's xx (switch), xxx (continue low) or Jxxx (continue high). If you lead from AKx and partner encourages, you won't know if that's Qxx (switch), Qxxx (continue) or xxxxx (continue high).

At least Han's suggestion does work when you can distinguish a two-card difference. Like Han, I don't actually play this, and I think it would need some discussion about when to apply it, but it does seem better.

Instead of signaling "2 or 4" vs "exactly 3," you can signal "exactly 2" vs "3 or 4."

I think this catches more cases, and gives 3rd hand more scope for falsecarding when needed to get partner to defend correctly.