[barmar]

blackshoe, on 2013-August-13, 09:04, said:

If I'm not mistaken, all these "traffic light" situations, or at least the amber and red ones, in the EBU get recorded, so there is a record. I'm not sure how they make it available later, though.

I should have said "replacement for consulting records". Records don't do much good if you can't actually use them. I can imagine them being used if they appeal the ruling, but it doesn't seem likely that a director would be able to get at them when he's making the ruling.

[blackshoe]

Oh, I can see it being likely, if the EBU maintains an online database to which all TDs in the country have access (at least if they have an Internet connection). But as I said, I don't know if they're doing that.

[barmar]

blackshoe, on 2013-August-13, 09:39, said:

Oh, I can see it being likely, if the EBU maintains an online database to which all TDs in the country have access (at least if they have an Internet connection). But as I said, I don't know if they're doing that.

As we've learned in the thread about the new EBU regulations being published online only, Internet connections at clubs are not ubiquitous in the UK.

[PhilKing]

blackshoe, on 2013-August-13, 09:39, said:

Oh, I can see it being likely, if the EBU maintains an online database to which all TDs in the country have access (at least if they have an Internet connection). But as I said, I don't know if they're doing that.

I'm not sure it would even be legal.

[aguahombre]

PhilKing, on 2013-August-13, 10:33, said:

I'm not sure it would even be legal.

Which? The database or accessing it?

When? While investigating a particular hand prior to ruling, or afterward to determine pattern of behavior?

[PhilKing]

aguahombre, on 2013-August-13, 11:00, said:

Which? The database or accessing it?

When? While investigating a particular hand prior to ruling, or afterward to determine pattern of behavior?

If a company holds data on you, you may Require that data is not used in any way that may potentially cause damage or distress.

[gnasher]

PhilKing, on 2013-August-13, 13:36, said:

If a company holds data on you, you may Require that data is not used in any way that may potentially cause damage or distress.

The EBU could simply make it a condition of participation in their events that you allow them to store and use the data in this way.

[Jeremy69A]

Psyches and (suggested) fielded misbids are routinely recorded at all EBU tournaments. They are held centrally but not electronically. Periodically they are used to assist with a discussion at the Laws and Ethics committee if the record of a pair is questioned. The situation I've enjoyed most during my chairmanship was the completed form of a player which said he had not psyched in a similar position with the same partner in the previous couple of years. This arrived at the meeting together with the four other examples of such a denied occasion. I think the letter started "It is my sad duty to inform you................."
Very occasionally recorded psyches from county events make their way to the EBU but almost never from a club.

[nige1]

mr1303, on 2013-August-10, 18:50, said:

Please see the description of the 2NT bid as per agreements.

North had forgotten and had a flat 21 count.

The EBU uses the traffic light system.

How do you rule?

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IMO Green (unfielded) misbid .North misbid but, given their actual agreement, unless 2N is forcing, South's pass seems reasonable.