[xx1943]

Scoring: IMP

you pass, LHO opens 1♥, partner doubles and RHO raises to 3♥ which is alerted as preempt

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What is the meaning of double in your system here?
Is this double M. Bergens thrump double?
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Scoring: IMP

6♣ needs 2 out 3 finesses and friendly ♠. 5♣need only 1 out of 3 finesses and a 4th ♠ trick for a ♦to discard.

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Any suggestin how this should be bid?
Btw. Due to the ♦ tenace South as declarer is preferred

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

4C.

Double would be optional, it should show at least inv. strength, i.e. you are
way too weak for this bid.
And than you have a 5 card suit, so just what you.

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Spoiler

Partner will raise 4C to 5C, thats it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[OleBerg]

I'll simply bid 4♣ as South, surely raised to 5♣ by North. A fine contract.

2 out of 3 finesses is 50%, so no problem in not bidding 6.

What double is, is a question of partnership agreement.

I would guess the "classic" meaning would be take-out with 3 spades.



I play the double as; "Exactly 4 spades, and will not play in spades if it is a 4-3 fit". This, among with other gadgets, gives partner complete freedom to double with only three spades.

Furthermore, a 3♠-bid in these situations strongly indicate a five-card-suit, thus helping the doubler in his judgement, if he contemplates a raise.

[FrancesHinden]

I would simply bid 4C over 3H, which North will raise to game.

It's not relevant to this hand, but the meaning of double has been discussed at great length on these forums many times. I happen to play it as showing (usually) two places to play i.e. does not guarantee or deny spades.

[pooltuna]

xx1943, on Jan 17 2010, 04:19 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

you pass, LHO opens 1♥, partner doubles and RHO raises to 3♥ which is alerted as preempt

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What is the meaning of double in your system here?
Is this double M. Bergens thrump double?
for the full hand scroll down.
[snip]

At the table I would probably pass altho X is a possiblilty depending on agreements. Looking at all 4 hands I bid 4♣ but I need rose colored glasses to see the other 3 hands.

[gnasher]

6♣ needs three out of three finesses, and is therefore awful. 5♣ needs two out of three finesses, two of them through the opening bidder, so 5♣ is the right spot.

Like everyone else, I'd bid 4♣ with the South hand and raise to 5♣ with the North hand.

[dake50]

I like X to clarify other Major: 4coM or oM:AQx as that is most likely what partner wants to know. Here 4C denies 4xS. And I bid so useful 10-ish. No Q-bid, no jump.

[quiddity]

I'm surprised everyone bids 4C with the south hand. Maybe I've made too many takeout doubles with 4243 11-counts; the doubleton heart and the weakish clubs make me want to pass. I think North has enough to double again.