[Lord Molyb]

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Playing IMPs

[mr1303]

2C. If partner questions my choice of bid I shall explain that I didn't see the opening.

[mikeh]

Doubling is sick, in the negative connotations of the word.

Pass is weird. I mean, this could well be a hand on which whoever declares is doomed, especially if the bidding is unrevealing to the opps, but I could never stomach leaving the opps the 1 level when I hold this shape

5♣ has probably the second-most going for it. It really jams the bidding and we will very often get an helpful diamond lead, and RHO might be unable to resist flying with an honour on a low spot lead from LHO....why would RHO read it as the singleton it is, rather than a lead away from the Q?

But I voted for the mundane 2♣ call, fairly sure that the auction will continue while being less sure of whether that will be good news for me.

The longer I spend typing this post, the better I like 5♣. In fact, despite my vote for 2♣ I now bid 5♣.

[Phil]

Pass is a little weird, but some would say that the only way to correctly describe this hand is to pass and then bid a ridiculous number of clubs later.

My long diamonds aren't that valuable, but I want to bury their majors, so 5♣ it is.

edit: Should 4N show this hand??

[Fluffy]

we miss ♦K and ♠A, there is absolutelly no way to find any of those cards on any bidding I can think of, so let's think a little on stadistics.

RHO has expectation of around 4♦, 3 is possible, but so is 5 or 6, this leaves partner with 1.5♦, RHO's failure to open 1♠ give him a little below average so partner has a little more.

RHO has opened the bidding, and we are very strong he is the most likelly to hold all honnor cards, I am not applying much science here, but my gut tells me partner will have a cover card around 1/5 of the time. And we haven't yet started to think about ♦J.

This all tells me that 5♣ is overwhemly favourite to be our best spot, so I bid it and put pressure on a not so unlikelly possible major 2 suiteron LHO's hand.

[Fluffy]

Phil, on 2012-November-17, 13:40, said:

Pass is a little weird, but some would say that the only way to correctly describe this hand is to pass and then bid a ridiculous number of clubs later.

My long diamonds aren't that valuable, but I want to bury their majors, so 5♣ it is.

edit: Should 4N show this hand??

Even if you had a perfect way to show this hand, partner can't tell the difference between ♥A and ♠A, maybe he has a way to raise to slam with ♦K or ♦ singleton and some clubs, but can you really trust him to be that smart?

[ahydra]

I see the advantages of 5C, though partner surely won't raise if he has the SA and out. Double gets us into a mess - I'd probably start with just 2C.

However, against weak opps can I bid 6C since I'm getting a diamond lead?

ahydra

[Fluffy]

ahydra, on 2012-November-19, 06:02, said:

I see the advantages of 5C, though partner surely won't raise if he has the SA and out. Double gets us into a mess - I'd probably start with just 2C.

Do you expect to learn about ♠A location starting with 2♣?

[ahydra]

Fluffy, on 2012-November-19, 07:36, said:

Do you expect to learn about ♠A location starting with 2♣?

If we bid 5C there's no way we'll find out about it. With 2C, it's still ridiculously unlikely given the outstanding 25 major-suit cards, but possible, e.g. partner has a good chunk of the outstanding strength and a ~4513, and we bid (1D); 2C-(p/X)-2D-(p); 4H (exclusion).

ahydra

[Fluffy]

I will tak to you about jumping to 4♥ in the 7-5 thread later lol

[aguahombre]

2♣, 5♣....either one could work out better. I choose 2C, and am pretty sure the hand will be discussed at the bar, later.

Mr1303's plan to justify the 2C bid is as good as any.

[MrAce]

5♣ for me.